Friday Covid Update: 14,575 new cases and 114 deaths

[AussieBob]

15 minutes ago, JohninDubin said:

In case nobody noticed, that's the second straight day of 13 new infections on Phuket. It looks as if the 90 case per week threshold may soon be breached.

13 x 7 = 89 !    Stupid Farang !

[stuhan]

The rate of daily infections will be determined by whatever actions the CCSA or the Goverment implement, not enough the numbers will sore, more strict will slow it down, not enough vaccinations are the main issue and that = desasterouse results. I don't  hold much hope with a Government  that thinks a tampon is a lipstick tube

Edited July 23, 2021 by stuhan

[JohninDublin]

1 hour ago, gummy said:

Well maybe lies and greed will impact those figures not to mention their overriding desire for them to save face, as time goes on. 

You may be right. What might undercut that though is the TH gov will no doubt be searching for scapegoats, and what better opportunity than to accuse a provincial governor of deliberately under-reporting. It doesn't matter that it will only be a few cases. It takes the glare away from BKK.

[Soidog]

6 hours ago, gummy said:

or 64,000+ per day after 1 month if the rate of increase remains at 5% per day

Yes the 10-14 day doubling time is what the Delta variant has done in the U.K. This is currently even quicker in the younger age groups as lockdown was ended on the 19th July. 

[Soidog]

I know it’s headline grabbing, but it smacks of a lack of understanding when media say things like  “Record new cases”. Well it will be unless you lockdown hard and start a mass vaccination programme. What else is expected?  This virus won’t suddenly get bored and stop! 

[Stardust]

On 7/23/2021 at 8:00 AM, Thaiger said:

The Centre for Covid-19 Situation Administration recorded another 14,575 new Covid-19 cases and 114 coronavirus-related deaths. In the latest and most severe wave of the virus in Thailand, first recorded on April 1, the CCSA has reported 438,844 confirmed infections. Over the past week, daily infections have exceeded 10,000. The uptick was expected by the CCSA due to the emergence of the highly transmissible Delta variant. Out of the new cases recorded today, 1,072 were found in correctional facilities. The latest wave of infections spread to Thailand’s overcrowded prisons, infecting more than 40,000 inmates. A Covid-19 outbreak was recently reported […]

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Yes this incompetent ego selfish government doomed Thailand . All struggle 

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[Soidog]

6 hours ago, Henryford said:

That's the stat you will never see quoted. How many of the 4000 deaths were in their 80s or with other serious illnesses?

Why does that matter? 

[Soidog]

3 hours ago, AdamX said:

1. Determining the cause of death is not rocket science—especially for chronic disease and accidents.

2. Assigning the death to C19, instead of the flu, car accident, heart attack, cancer, diabetes, liver disease is not a time saving exercise—its an outright lie that only serves to fuel the public panic.

3. Statistical correctness—this is an oxomoron if the data is invalid

I respect that these details are not important to you—but they are crucial if we are to construct effective responses to the pandemic,

It is for these reasons that we never used "died with influenza" as cause of death in the past?

The answer to this debate is to find out what the excess deaths are. It stops all the debate about cause of death etc. We know Covid 19 is killing people above and beyond “normal” death rates (accidents, heart attacks, flu, murders, cancer etc). Tell us what the excess deaths are and there is your answer. 

[Wigi]

9 hours ago, AdamX said:

Cases mean little.

How many deaths from covid, not with covid?

How many were seriously symptomatic?

Why are we not demanding this clarity?

Oh my God.  I just came from reading your similar drivel on another thread!

Are you always this "rose tinted, pro-junta"?

Your name isn't Steven, by any chance?

You are being pedantic in the extreme and in the other thread, completely twisted the post.

I guess, if this is what floats YOUR boat, we should let you sail along.

Sad really though.

[HolyCowCm]

37 minutes ago, Wigi said:

Are you always this "rose tinted, pro-junta"?

Your name isn't Steven, by any chance?

Good ole Steven100. He did become quite well known by everyone. 

[THETRUTH]

22 hours ago, AdamX said:

1. Determining the cause of death is not rocket science—especially for chronic disease and accidents.

2. Assigning the death to C19, instead of the flu, car accident, heart attack, cancer, diabetes, liver disease is not a time saving exercise—its an outright lie that only serves to fuel the public panic.

3. Statistical correctness—this is an oxomoron if the data is invalid

I respect that these details are not important to you—but they are crucial if we are to construct effective responses to the pandemic,

It is for these reasons that we never used "died with influenza" as cause of death in the past?

Some hospitals are already so full of patients that they cannot even treat everyone in critical condition. This will inevitably lead into a scenario where the death can be triggered basically by anything regardless of what was the reason for hospitalization in the first place.

All around numbers -- hospitalizations, people in critical condition, people dying -- are abnormally high and that is directly attributable to covid-19. Whining about not knowing the exact numbers is idiotic bickering, as we still reliably know that the overall situation is spiralling out of control and that the primary reason is the C-virus.

P.S. Oxomoron is not a real word and it's funny because you even went on to underline it.

[AdamX]

On 7/24/2021 at 10:45 AM, THETRUTH said:

Some hospitals are already so full of patients that they cannot even treat everyone in critical condition. This will inevitably lead into a scenario where the death can be triggered basically by anything regardless of what was the reason for hospitalization in the first place.

All around numbers -- hospitalizations, people in critical condition, people dying -- are abnormally high and that is directly attributable to covid-19. Whining about not knowing the exact numbers is idiotic bickering, as we still reliably know that the overall situation is spiralling out of control and that the primary reason is the C-virus.

P.S. Oxomoron is not a real word and it's funny because you even went on to underline it.

Firstly, I apologise for the failure of my spell check—you got me, well done!

Secondly, if you care to look at the financial incentives for hospitalisations, and the kind of cases that are referred for this—even asymptomatic people were being forced to go to hospital until the money started to dry up—then you would see that we do not reliably know anything.

From personal experience and a plethora of anecdotal evidence, my current conclusion is that the vast number of these cases and yes, hospitalizations, are of people displaying zero to mild symptoms and does not justify the sheer amount of fear porn we are being fed,

Look I cant say that I know whats really going on—but neither can you.

Lets keep an open mind and above all, question everything.

There is more than enough circumstantial evidence that money is at play here

 

 

Edited July 26, 2021 by AdamX

[AdamX]

On 7/23/2021 at 5:32 PM, Wigi said:

Oh my God.  I just came from reading your similar drivel on another thread!

Are you always this "rose tinted, pro-junta"?

Your name isn't Steven, by any chance?

You are being pedantic in the extreme and in the other thread, completely twisted the post.

I guess, if this is what floats YOUR boat, we should let you sail along.

Sad really though.

Ad hominium.

If you have anything other than insults, we would appreciate it

[Stonker]

1 hour ago, AdamX said:

you would see that we do not reliably know anything.

 

1 hour ago, AdamX said:

Look I cant say that I know whats really going on

At least we agree on something.

[THETRUTH]

5 hours ago, AdamX said:

Firstly, I apologise for the failure of my spell check—you got me, well done!

Secondly, if you care to look at the financial incentives for hospitalisations, and the kind of cases that are referred for this—even asymptomatic people were being forced to go to hospital until the money started to dry up—then you would see that we do not reliably know anything.

From personal experience and a plethora of anecdotal evidence, my current conclusion is that the vast number of these cases and yes, hospitalizations, are of people displaying zero to mild symptoms and does not justify the sheer amount of fear porn we are being fed,

Look I cant say that I know whats really going on—but neither can you.

Lets keep an open mind and above all, question everything.

There is more than enough circumstantial evidence that money is at play here

So are you implying that while the covid pandemic is real in other countries, Thailand has somehow avoided it and is instead running a financial scam by overhospitalizing people? In many countries in the world hospitals are owned by the government and government is only losing money by putting people into hospitals.

Even in Thailand it's the government footing the bill. So who is the government scamming when it is playing both the roles of the puppet master and puppet?

Yeah, many people are being hospitalized for the sake of carrying the virus albeit not displaying any symptoms. That is a WHO recommendation, by the way, and I guess the reason is to control the spread of the virus in crowded nations such as Thailand. It might be "fear porn" but you didn't even suggest that there could be malicious motives for that.

You say "question everything" but your talk is more akin to refuting everything and without any plausible reason. Conspiracy nuts are often confused between the two indeed.

Edited July 26, 2021 by THETRUTH

[AdamX]

21 hours ago, THETRUTH said:

 

You say "question everything" but your talk is more akin to refuting everything and without any plausible reason.  

You say 'believe everything" if it comes from the government or the corporations that are making money from vaccines and lockdown measures.

Does that really sound sensible?

[gummy]

1 minute ago, AdamX said:

You say 'believe everything" if it comes from the government or the corporations that are making money from vaccines and lockdown measures.

Does that really sound sensible?

Why are we having this debate that relates to last week covids cases ? 

[THETRUTH]

2 hours ago, AdamX said:

You say 'believe everything" if it comes from the government or the corporations that are making money from vaccines and lockdown measures.

Does that really sound sensible?

I gave you the reasons why your rebuttal is bullshit.

I already also said that it hardly matters if the reported numbers are skewed as the health crisis in itself is obviously real.

The government is losing money in this pandemic. That is also a fact. The corrupted leaders do not need to stage a fake health crisis because they can make their sideline cash much easier if the economy was healthy and normal.

What you have at best are inaccurate numbers. You are claiming there's a massive conspiracy behind all this but then cannot show anything that was even anecdotally in support of your views.

You are paranoid and dumb and brainwashed by others of your kind. You have no freedom of thought.

Edited July 27, 2021 by THETRUTH

[AdamX]

19 hours ago, THETRUTH said:

I gave you the reasons why your rebuttal is bullshit.

I already also said that it hardly matters if the reported numbers are skewed as the health crisis in itself is obviously real.

The government is losing money in this pandemic. That is also a fact. The corrupted leaders do not need to stage a fake health crisis because they can make their sideline cash much easier if the economy was healthy and normal.

What you have at best are inaccurate numbers. You are claiming there's a massive conspiracy behind all this but then cannot show anything that was even anecdotally in support of your views.

You are paranoid and dumb and brainwashed by others of your kind. You have no freedom of thought.

Insults do not advance your cause

Goodbye

Edited July 28, 2021 by AdamX

[THETRUTH]

3 hours ago, AdamX said:

Insults do not advance your cause

Goodbye

I am only offering cowards an easy way out of their fabled bullshit.