News Forum - Thailand rattled as TikTok unveils woman shot over motorcycle noise, assailant released on bail

July 23, 2023

2 hours ago, Ramanathan.P said:

Fully agree with your view. Only very few Thai woman understand the real meaning of life. You are lucky to have one. Most of the Thai woman are only trying to live in fantazy and wanted to show others how they live. Basically they are imitating other's life as if it is their own failing to understand the depth of others' life. And those foreigners who had young Thai wives also tend to accomodate to please the girls to the extent of loosing everything ending up being dumped by the Thais eventually. We have seen many such cases in the news.

By the way

I was not bragging about our life

I was just pointing out we focused on the things that mattered when most didn't around her village

July 23, 2023

2 hours ago, Ramanathan.P said:

Fully agree with your view. Only very few Thai woman understand the real meaning of life. You are lucky to have one. Most of the Thai woman are only trying to live in fantazy and wanted to show others how they live. Basically they are imitating other's life as if it is their own failing to understand the depth of others' life. And those foreigners who had young Thai wives also tend to accomodate to please the girls to the extent of loosing everything ending up being dumped by the Thais eventually. We have seen many such cases in the news.

We know a girl

Married to a German guy

He built a house for 4 mil baht, all his money

And his wife just sold it for 2 million without even telling him 1st

And the guy is now paying for her to rent a house and will buy another house when he saves up more!

Lunacy

July 23, 2023

13 minutes ago, HolyCowCm said:

Sounds like he needs an eye opener if he can agree to take the golden shoe horn out of his rearend. Seeing the real deal is what it is all about somethimes, and villages if you know how to navigate yourself are and can be refreshing and fun. I don't think hus his hi so educated lady could provide him with a look-see into the country and villages as I have seen Bangkok people in the country before. I travel to villages up here on bike several times a year and I actually travel to rice farms and meet with farmers quite alot in Issan. The educted city Thai stick out like a sore thumb and don't fit in, cannot eat the food and are so out of place it I sort of funny. Been doing this for a long long time and have abig trip coming up in a few months as need to do. Easy to live in a villa on the side of a hill, but a it is nice, it is not the way i choose to live here.

If @oldschooler enjoys how is living, than that is all that matters, really.

Me personally, I would never live in any country if I had no desire to experience the cuisine, the people and the culture

But it really is his choice

I'm not going to put anyone's choice down

July 23, 2023

10 hours ago, oldschooler said:

Suggest farangs don’t live in shithole areas with poor people. why would that be a thing unless of course they are flat broke / unwilling to return home / had kids with bar girls/ stupidly living “ in her village” ffs….. Enlighten me.

I have chosen to live here away from that scenario and away from all Thai areas/ families / males /large towns/ noise / businesses, etc .Decent Quiet hillside Seaview villa with other well- off foreigners around. professional educated Thai lady. Low cost by western standards. Tropical island lifestyle. Very Attainable.

BTW. Nothing negative about your lifestyle and preference for how you want to live, it does sound nice, but it isn't the utopian everything is perfet and the best in a nutshell for others. I rally don't look down on anyone how they want to live and how much money they have as long as they are good people and enjoy their life. I even think the lowest level Social Security payout of a reitree from the USA living frugal and happy here is better than living in the US under worse enviroment barely or not sraping by. It is quality of life. After the kids are on their life after University, I honetly could live off of about 35-40k baht a month with an occasional go out and travel here and there filtered in. I don't need much here. The savings I have in the US banks is for the kids after I am gone. I am on my last stretch of life. I see it as like flying, the plane goes up, levels off, and at some point sarts a decent befor lasnding at destination. I figure I am proably into half of that decent before the last breath of landing comes around. Maybe 10-15 probably but if lucky 20 years at best.

July 23, 2023

Life is to enjoy every day. If we wake-up tomorrow morning, then it is our luck day. If we are not going to wake-up tomorrow morning, then today is our happiest day.

July 23, 2023

8 hours ago, HolyCowCm said:

BTW. Nothing negative about your lifestyle and preference for how you want to live, it does sound nice, but it isn't the utopian everything is perfet and the best in a nutshell for others. I rally don't look down on anyone how they want to live and how much money they have as long as they are good people and enjoy their life. I even think the lowest level Social Security payout of a reitree from the USA living frugal and happy here is better than living in the US under worse enviroment barely or not sraping by. It is quality of life. After the kids are on their life after University, I honetly could live off of about 35-40k baht a month with an occasional go out and travel here and there filtered in. I don't need much here. The savings I have in the US banks is for the kids after I am gone. I am on my last stretch of life. I see it as like flying, the plane goes up, levels off, and at some point sarts a decent befor lasnding at destination. I figure I am proably into half of that decent before the last breath of landing comes around. Maybe 10-15 probably but if lucky 20 years at best.

Don’t believe we are in Disagreement. My budget around 60k baht monthly( family of 3) which is covered by net profit small business here….. My sole issue is in fact the point you make above I think. Which is your typical example retired faring budget guy has enough income and savings not to live here in any noisy poor squalor zone. So why put themselves in that position …… they know it’s a bad move leading inevitably to preventable trouble ….. and then to complain about the trouble……..makes no sense.nor does your point that some may ( poorly) choose to live like that. Move.

Also my western offspring ( now early 30’s) got all the help they’re gonna get from me, whilst alive. Living Will concept. All my Thai assets will go my Thai lady and son. The rest I intend to spend on myself before I pass on. Maybe follow the sun on cruise liners for two years visiting all the places I never got to see like New Zealand & Canada…….I got precisely Nothing from my Dead Family. My western children already got a great deal more and that’s gonna have to be good enough…….

I see from your earlier responses that you have fully embraced the culture here.

In contrast I have near completely rejected it, along with my lady who came from it and who, with me, despises it.

July 23, 2023

30 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

Don’t believe we are in Disagreement. My budget around 60k baht monthly( family of 3) which is covered by net profit small business here….. My sole issue is in fact the point you make above I think. Which is your typical example retired faring budget guy has enough income and savings not to live here in any noisy poor squalor zone. So why put themselves in that position …… they know it’s a bad move leading inevitably to preventable trouble ….. and then to complain about the trouble……..makes no sense.nor does your point that some may ( poorly) choose to live like that. Move.

Also my western offspring ( now early 30’s) got all the help they’re gonna get from me, whilst alive. Living Will concept. All my Thai assets will go my Thai lady and son. The rest I intend to spend on myself before I pass on. Maybe follow the sun on cruise liners for two years visiting all the places I never got to see like New Zealand & Canada…….I got precisely Nothing from my Dead Family. My western children already got a great deal more and that’s gonna have to be good enough…….

I see from your earlier responses that you have fully embraced the culture here.

In contrast I have near completely rejected it, along with my lady who came from it and who, with me, despises it.

I live in a really nice place but it still doesn’t make a minority of sone Thai able to think out of the box and automatically respect and understand others for what is just common sense. Had a nice house in the usa and have a neighbor story for that.

I got what you are saying for where you are at. I don’t have any kids in the USA only ones I had and have here. I am 7 or 8 or so years from retirement and still have things going on and many many travel trips to take. That will not come out of anything I hold in the banks as I still intend on that going to my wife and kids if I croak before the wife.having frugal is not exactly squalor if in a village. At least it is more spacious than say like renting a small room for your living condition which is still ok if that is how one needs to do things and still remain upbeat and satisfied here.

Yes, I like thai people ( not every single one) a lot and do have few old time best friends. This is my choice for a country and family and been decades already and still am not bored. My old usa buddies visit me here and so I am doing quite well and happy.

July 23, 2023

9 hours ago, HolyCowCm said:

Sounds like he needs an eye opener if he can agree to take the golden shoe horn out of his rearend. Seeing the real deal is what it is all about somethimes, and villages if you know how to navigate yourself are and can be refreshing and fun. I don't think hus his hi so educated lady could provide him with a look-see into the country and villages as I have seen Bangkok people in the country before. I travel to villages up here on bike several times a year and I actually travel to rice farms and meet with farmers quite alot in Issan. The educted city Thai stick out like a sore thumb and don't fit in, cannot eat the food and are so out of place it I sort of funny. Been doing this for a long long time and have abig trip coming up in a few months as need to do. Easy to live in a villa on the side of a hill, but a it is nice, it is not the way i choose to live here.

oldschooler. I should have probably phrased it differently and not so knocking so it didn't come off how it look as it did. I think there are some things you are not accustomed to being in contact with or visiting here where others are quite accustomed and like. I do almost every level travel and living here from 5 star hotels to sleeping in a mountain people’s floor, to a low end room rent or guesthouse. I only have the standard that they are nice people then I can cope with what ever roles my way. I enjoy all facets to the life here, but when go home to my family it is very nice and comfortable. So again no Ofer we as was written in haste as I was out the door and on my way to see a movie with my kids today.
cheers!

July 23, 2023

37 minutes ago, HolyCowCm said:

oldschooler. I should have probably phrased it differently and not so knocking so it didn't come off how it look as it did. I think there are some things you are not accustomed to being in contact with or visiting here where others are quite accustomed and like. I do almost every level travel and living here from 5 star hotels to sleeping in a mountain people’s floor, to a low end room rent or guesthouse. I only have the standard that they are nice people then I can cope with what ever roles my way. I enjoy all facets to the life here, but when go home to my family it is very nice and comfortable. So again no Ofer we as was written in haste as I was out the door and on my way to see a movie with my kids today.
cheers!

No Problem. I Get It. You Embrace Thailand. I Use It to Simply Relax.
Of course I must at least interface directly with some Thai Govt. But even there, where humiliation awaits, I will use an Agent. Tessaban & Immigration Long Stay are prime examples. Obtaining my Yellow Housebook was the worst bureaucratic experience ever, for myself & lady actually, appalling treatment. Got It though….

Thai Trades, Thai Services, Vehicles etc. is all delegated to the Lady. I fund and approve anything high value.

July 23, 2023

1 hour ago, oldschooler said:

No Problem. I Get It. You Embrace Thailand. I Use It to Simply Relax.
Of course I must at least interface directly with some Thai Govt. But even there, where humiliation awaits, I will use an Agent. Tessaban & Immigration Long Stay are prime examples. Obtaining my Yellow Housebook was the worst bureaucratic experience ever, for myself & lady actually, appalling treatment. Got It though….

Thai Trades, Thai Services, Vehicles etc. is all delegated to the Lady. I fund and approve anything high value.

We will all have a time of wanting to I jump up and down screaming Holy BS at one - two or three points of time or more. But that’s dirt if anywhere. My yellow house book was as such as, get all the documents together and go down with my wife and then if I wanted the book fast track and not an extra 1-2 months later then donate a 1000 baht fee. I donated and just laughed it off. Hopefully he shared it with the other 2 in that office.
Anyway good talking to you and have a good night.
cheers.

July 23, 2023

2 hours ago, oldschooler said:

No Problem. I Get It. You Embrace Thailand. I Use It to Simply Relax.
Of course I must at least interface directly with some Thai Govt. But even there, where humiliation awaits, I will use an Agent. Tessaban & Immigration Long Stay are prime examples. Obtaining my Yellow Housebook was the worst bureaucratic experience ever, for myself & lady actually, appalling treatment. Got It though….

Thai Trades, Thai Services, Vehicles etc. is all delegated to the Lady. I fund and approve anything high value.

The thing is you choose to live in what is possibly the worst part of Thailand and how Thais treat foreigners then paint all of Thailand as the same

It's a bit of an ignorant view

As I said before, I lived in Phuket and go back yearly

I found where I like (Kamala) but I still end up with more issues in Phuket from nasty Thais than I do anywhere else

We've bought houses and land and done all sorts of beaucratic endeavors in local Thai(not Phuket) that have always been a breeze

There is some aspects of Thai life I don't agree with, but there is some aspects of life in North America I don't agree with as well

July 23, 2023

4 hours ago, Marc26 said:

The thing is you choose to live in what is possibly the worst part of Thailand and how Thais treat foreigners then paint all of Thailand as the same

It's a bit of an ignorant view

As I said before, I lived in Phuket and go back yearly

I found where I like (Kamala) but I still end up with more issues in Phuket from nasty Thais than I do anywhere else

We've bought houses and land and done all sorts of beaucratic endeavors in local Thai(not Phuket) that have always been a breeze

There is some aspects of Thai life I don't agree with, but there is some aspects of life in North America I don't agree with as well

I do not nor would not live anywhere remotely “the worst part of Thailand”. Very Content with Location. That jihadi stretch Kamala thru.to just before Laguna a huge No for me.

Phuket universally regarded as best / near best location by foreigners except the Phuket hater crowd who can’t afford it, weirdly prefer cities or want to play up country farmers.

Worst would be Bangkok - Isaan - Pattaya- Kamala Up ! …… travelled all over Thailand before and resident here since 2004 buying & selling several properties, built & off-plan, so not remotely “ignorant”.

I have never been interested in living / working in North America nor their go-to sholes Mexico & Phil.I see very few from US here, more Aussies Canucks Germans …. ahole Russians all over now of course too; spread out from Rawai like plague this year…

Better Comparison for Europeans at least is between say Portugal- Spain - Cyprus vs. Thailand.Thailand happens to suit me better, mainly for cost, convenience & later, family reasons.

As I believe I made clear already, I do not allow Thais to treat me badly too often as I have a strong policy of bare minimal contact.Govt. & Business Contact Always been very good in fact.

Yellow Book drama exception but that Corrupt Tessaban ( investigated by Thai Bkk Parliament) treat Thais poorly too. No Agent wanted to take the job….that should have been a red flag to pull out …….

Entirety of Thai “ Culture” is Clearly Rotten & Corrupt. Obvious to the Blind.
Zero Comparison to Western Ideas & Practices. Medicine & Aviation excepted……

USA and France are simply Gone ……..hopeless cases regrettably. NATO Aside.

I typically have little time for westerners here, having “gone native” or not. Generally bigger arrogant aholes than the locals in my experience with very few exceptions ( eg Rotary Charities ) …..

Guess we’ll agree to Differ. Our reasons for being here and our lifestyle / residence choices are literally poles apart. But here we are anyway…….

July 23, 2023

6 hours ago, HolyCowCm said:

We will all have a time of wanting to I jump up and down screaming Holy BS at one - two or three points of time or more. But that’s dirt if anywhere. My yellow house book was as such as, get all the documents together and go down with my wife and then if I wanted the book fast track and not an extra 1-2 months later then donate a 1000 baht fee. I donated and just laughed it off. Hopefully he shared it with the other 2 in that office.
Anyway good talking to you and have a good night.
cheers.

1000 baht ….. had to pay 50,000 baht blackmail to Land Owner for the proper Blue Book after Original she provided proved Fraudulent …. Landowner is a high court judge YB would certainly have been a similar sum once starting down that road ….. would have paid that in hindsight to avoid the grief …. My lady in tears outside office after gross humiliation by the old bag there…….but my lady insisted DON’T PAY…...so yeah no interest in your great service and tiny bribe stories thanks…….everywhere here is different…. some Tessaban just say NO to YB.

July 23, 2023

1 hour ago, oldschooler said:

I do not nor would not live anywhere remotely “the worst part of Thailand”. Very Content with Location. That jihadi stretch Kamala thru.to just before Laguna a huge No for me.

Phuket universally regarded as best / near best location by foreigners except the Phuket hater crowd who can’t afford it, weirdly prefer cities or want to play up country farmers.

Worst would be Bangkok - Isaan - Pattaya- Kamala Up ! …… travelled all over Thailand before and resident here since 2004 buying & selling several properties, built & off-plan, so not remotely “ignorant”.

I have never been interested in living / working in North America nor their go-to sholes Mexico & Phil.I see very few from US here, more Aussies Canucks Germans …. ahole Russians all over now of course too; spread out from Rawai like plague this year…

Better Comparison for Europeans at least is between say Portugal- Spain - Cyprus vs. Thailand.Thailand happens to suit me better, mainly for cost, convenience & later, family reasons.

As I believe I made clear already, I do not allow Thais to treat me badly too often as I have a strong policy of bare minimal contact.Govt. & Business Contact Always been very good in fact.

Yellow Book drama exception but that Corrupt Tessaban ( investigated by Thai Bkk Parliament) treat Thais poorly too. No Agent wanted to take the job….that should have been a red flag to pull out …….

Entirety of Thai “ Culture” is Clearly Rotten & Corrupt. Obvious to the Blind.
Zero Comparison to Western Ideas & Practices. Medicine & Aviation excepted……

USA and France are simply Gone ……..hopeless cases regrettably. NATO Aside.

I typically have little time for westerners here, having “gone native” or not. Generally bigger arrogant aholes than the locals in my experience with very few exceptions ( eg Rotary Charities ) …..

Guess we’ll agree to Differ. Our reasons for being here and our lifestyle / residence choices are literally poles apart. But here we are anyway…….

You calling others "arrogant" is downright hilarious......55555

As I said above, people can choose how they want to live

But man you really do come off as a miserable, hateful person

What a real shitty way to go through life.

And I don't entirely disagree with all that you say, I'm just not as miserable in life I guess

July 24, 2023

1 hour ago, Marc26 said:

You calling others "arrogant" is downright hilarious......55555

As I said above, people can choose how they want to live

But man you really do come off as a miserable, hateful person

What a real shitty way to go through life.

And I don't entirely disagree with all that you say, I'm just not as miserable in life I guess

So telling truth is “ miserable” & “ arrogant” . right, got it.
Hate / Misery no; Despise, certainly. Outwardly Polite always.

Yes, defenders of Thailand do annoy …. Not much here to defend … safe, hot & cheap will do for me.

July 24, 2023

37 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

So telling truth is “ miserable” & “ arrogant” . right, got it.
Hate / Misery no; Despise, certainly. Outwardly Polite always.

Yes, defenders of Thailand do annoy …. Not much here to defend … safe, hot & cheap will do for me.

As I said I don't disagree with everything you say

I think there are aspects of Thai culture that are not good and some downright awful.

But there are also so many good aspects as well, mainly the people

And my wife, having lived outside Thailand for a long time, has been able to recognize the bad elements of Thai culture, for the most part

With my help, I like to think.

But we don't disregard the culture on a whole

Many cultures all over have their undesirable aspects

Some choose to surround themselves with the positive aspects and live positively

Some don't......

I know which I prefer to go through life

July 24, 2023

6 hours ago, oldschooler said:

1000 baht ….. had to pay 50,000 baht blackmail to Land Owner for the proper Blue Book after Original she provided proved Fraudulent …. Landowner is a high court judge YB would certainly have been a similar sum once starting down that road ….. would have paid that in hindsight to avoid the grief …. My lady in tears outside office after gross humiliation by the old bag there…….but my lady insisted DON’T PAY…...so yeah no interest in your great service and tiny bribe stories thanks…….everywhere here is different…. some Tessaban just say NO to YB.

Well seems that you are or have been a target for some reason sometimes. Not to be disrespectful, but could it have something to do with your personality and they way you come off to some Thai folk or many folk in general as abrasive or negative? It may have something that becomes an irritant to some of the Thai that you have dealt with just like the motorcyle noise in the story but was also mentioned there is probably more to the story than just the noise of the motorcyle that can persay - flip a switch. Thai act in a different way with each other and thus the Thai smile which is many times not a smile but I see as something they want to resemble as a mouth smile but is actually a smirk. Look close enough and you can see which one it is as in real or the smirk.

Now cannot say how I would have dealt with your blue book situation and how it was pushed to you by this certian corrupt entity, but that is something that will leave a sour taste in one's mouth and when in this particular situation you must also think that your and your wife's safety is the most important becasue things are cheap and stuff can happen. So this is why I think why you maybe paid the 50k just to make it go away as caught in a very precarious situation. Life is not worth a mere 50k in my book. BTW. Very odd you never did a follow up on the blue book copy and if did not an indepth title search before starting to buy to see that all was clear. Nothing is always face value here as I have learned over the years.

Now my point is 1000 baht or 50,000 baht, we both experienced a type of warped corrupt personitly, and as the Thai smile I mentioned above, this one from the official I* dealt with was a corrupt smirk one until we paid him and then it became a real greaseball smile. And yes, I have met many like this before, so you are not the only one. One owned a huge factory and surrounded himself by 6 employees talking down ridiculing as a joke about my associate in Thai while eveyone as laughing at him. But to him it ssemed like joking with his employees and them having fun, but it was not. I never told him what was said as that would have resulted in a worse case situation. Ulitmately he lost $60,000 on bad product that had to be disgarded. Slime ball yes, but my asociate also had or could trun on having a foulf mouth abrasive personality that got him this treatment this time. I just had to grin and bear it and they all knew I knew what the mega factory owner was talking about and the game he was playing. This guy was also very powerful.

So my take on this story is that the noise was a constant factor, but her personality or one of her family's rough or arrogant or abrasive personality plaid a factor in it as well which in the end got her shot. So what does this have to do with all the stories mentioned? Over here sometimes with a reaction whether you realise it or not can have an adverse bad reaction.

July 24, 2023

4 hours ago, HolyCowCm said:

Well seems that you are or have been a target for some reason sometimes. Not to be disrespectful, but could it have something to do with your personality and they way you come off to some Thai folk or many folk in general as abrasive or negative? It may have something that becomes an irritant to some of the Thai that you have dealt with just like the motorcyle noise in the story but was also mentioned there is probably more to the story than just the noise of the motorcyle that can persay - flip a switch. Thai act in a different way with each other and thus the Thai smile which is many times not a smile but I see as something they want to resemble as a mouth smile but is actually a smirk. Look close enough and you can see which one it is as in real or the smirk.

Now cannot say how I would have dealt with your blue book situation and how it was pushed to you by this certian corrupt entity, but that is something that will leave a sour taste in one's mouth and when in this particular situation you must also think that your and your wife's safety is the most important becasue things are cheap and stuff can happen. So this is why I think why you maybe paid the 50k just to make it go away as caught in a very precarious situation. Life is not worth a mere 50k in my book. BTW. Very odd you never did a follow up on the blue book copy and if did not an indepth title search before starting to buy to see that all was clear. Nothing is always face value here as I have learned over the years.

Now my point is 1000 baht or 50,000 baht, we both experienced a type of warped corrupt personitly, and as the Thai smile I mentioned above, this one from the official I* dealt with was a corrupt smirk one until we paid him and then it became a real greaseball smile. And yes, I have met many like this before, so you are not the only one. One owned a huge factory and surrounded himself by 6 employees talking down ridiculing as a joke about my associate in Thai while eveyone as laughing at him. But to him it ssemed like joking with his employees and them having fun, but it was not. I never told him what was said as that would have resulted in a worse case situation. Ulitmately he lost $60,000 on bad product that had to be disgarded. Slime ball yes, but my asociate also had or could trun on having a foulf mouth abrasive personality that got him this treatment this time. I just had to grin and bear it and they all knew I knew what the mega factory owner was talking about and the game he was playing. This guy was also very powerful.

So my take on this story is that the noise was a constant factor, but her personality or one of her family's rough or arrogant or abrasive personality plaid a factor in it as well which in the end got her shot. So what does this have to do with all the stories mentioned? Over here sometimes with a reaction whether you realise it or not can have an adverse bad reaction.

Personality ? No. Jealousy ? Sure. Old Toad considered me with my lovely lady and compared with her situation ; probably married to useless drunk gambling idle local husband; never having caught a farang. Had prior clearance from “ big chief” upstairs before starting YB process with Toad. My lady did ALL the soft subservient usual talking to power here,while I stayed quiescent in the background.

You are spot on with the 50k. No Option. Cannot risk any upset here. She took three months to line up the corrective action with handouts land office and tessaban…. had to pay the asking price to fix HER BB Error.

My Lawyer should have checked BB with Sale Contract of course. Had been using it for many years at DLT.

Appears simple possession of a BB sufficient. Never checked by DLT. Only when seeking to add lady and son did Tessaban spot the property mismatch. Done by Landowner to avoid Tax it seems.

Agree that it’s always an accumulation of irritants resulting in loss of tolerance and violence.
True Everywhere….

YB became an endurance test; a special project over three months of nonsense.

Toad just following process laid down EXCEPT she used that a pretext to get into our personal business and conduct humiliation; another “ Thai thing” with foreigners; eg Immy Long Stay Permits ……

Good to converse on this with you……clearly the BB / YB stuff was pretty bad as admin goes and still “ resonates” with me, particularly how my lady was treated yet still stuck it out with me without which we would not have got this done.

July 24, 2023

7 hours ago, Marc26 said:

As I said I don't disagree with everything you say

I think there are aspects of Thai culture that are not good and some downright awful.

But there are also so many good aspects as well, mainly the people

And my wife, having lived outside Thailand for a long time, has been able to recognize the bad elements of Thai culture, for the most part

With my help, I like to think.

But we don't disregard the culture on a whole

Many cultures all over have their undesirable aspects

Some choose to surround themselves with the positive aspects and live positively

Some don't......

I know which I prefer to go through life

Agree All. However positive can only emerge after negative identified and managed.

Problem with “ the people” is those abusing power, seeking advantage or trapped by culture.

July 24, 2023

On 7/23/2023 at 5:38 AM, oldschooler said:

Don’t believe we are in Disagreement. My budget around 60k baht monthly( family of 3) which is covered by net profit small business here….. My sole issue is in fact the point you make above I think. Which is your typical example retired faring budget guy has enough income and savings not to live here in any noisy poor squalor zone. So why put themselves in that position …… they know it’s a bad move leading inevitably to preventable trouble ….. and then to complain about the trouble……..makes no sense.nor does your point that some may ( poorly) choose to live like that. Move.

Why do you assume any issue is only in poor areas?

We have had houses in 2 upper middle class areas in Thailand and have had the issues explained above

I live in a million dollar apartment(not baht) and my neighbors were being assholes on Saturday around 1am

And I would say a very small, tiny % of expats, even the most budget conscious, live in poor squalor areas

July 24, 2023

4 hours ago, oldschooler said:

Personality ? No. Jealousy ? Sure. Old Toad considered me with my lovely lady and compared with her situation ; probably married to useless drunk gambling idle local husband; never having caught a farang. Had prior clearance from “ big chief” upstairs before starting YB process with Toad. My lady did ALL the soft subservient usual talking to power here,while I stayed quiescent in the background.

You are spot on with the 50k. No Option. Cannot risk any upset here. She took three months to line up the corrective action with handouts land office and tessaban…. had to pay the asking price to fix HER BB Error.

My Lawyer should have checked BB with Sale Contract of course. Had been using it for many years at DLT.

Appears simple possession of a BB sufficient. Never checked by DLT. Only when seeking to add lady and son did Tessaban spot the property mismatch. Done by Landowner to avoid Tax it seems.

Agree that it’s always an accumulation of irritants resulting in loss of tolerance and violence.
True Everywhere….

YB became an endurance test; a special project over three months of nonsense.

Toad just following process laid down EXCEPT she used that a pretext to get into our personal business and conduct humiliation; another “ Thai thing” with foreigners; eg Immy Long Stay Permits ……

Good to converse on this with you……clearly the BB / YB stuff was pretty bad as admin goes and still “ resonates” with me, particularly how my lady was treated yet still stuck it out with me without which we would not have got this done.

I used to see a repeated habitual thing played out with some Thai. They took pleasure in seeing people or their supposed friends fall, meaning what goes up is fun to see it come back down to before to same or fall more. Some how it is based on jealously and hate to see someone do better than them, so the proverbial, misery loves company so if you fall back to same as me as we were before then that is perfect. I learned this a long long time ago here.

July 24, 2023

19 minutes ago, Marc26 said:

I live in a million dollar apartment(not baht) and my neighbors were being assholes on Saturday around 1am

Yep. That is the case of thinking privileged or just don’t think and don’t care. Not a demographic of people in a certain area ropes and singled out to be all the same. Not quite a needle in a haystack (rarely ) but sometimes like finding a hair in your food, but more like the likelihood of a fly that lands on your straw us how often you come across this kind of person.

July 24, 2023

On 7/22/2023 at 9:21 PM, HolyCowCm said:

After the kids are on their life after University, I honetly could live off of about 35-40k baht a month

It's looking likely he will be in Canada the next 5 years

But if my stepson is in Thailand, I am anticipating helping him a bit for at least a few years after University

You may need to help a bit as well, given how low starting salaries are in Thailand

July 24, 2023

8 minutes ago, Marc26 said:

It's looking likely he will be in Canada the next 5 years

But if my stepson is in Thailand, I am anticipating helping him a bit for at least a few years after University

You may need to help a bit as well, given how low starting salaries are in Thailand

Yeah the gift of loving my kids and taking care of them will never stop. I fully think I will set up businesses for them to help out. That’s my goal and push directing them to get to. I still have 8-9 years before I retire. I did say after they are on their life after University, but that’s true Marc. I tell them get their Masters first to grove an edge, get sone experience while always looking to craft a business plan to make your own business. I said you will never get anywhere big for how salaries are here working as a staff member with no access to rewards. It pushing them out ever. My house is not like a typical USA house. Congratulations you are 18, now get out!

July 24, 2023

39 minutes ago, HolyCowCm said:

Yeah the gift of loving my kids and taking care of them will never stop. I fully think I will set up businesses for them to help out. That’s my goal and push directing them to get to. I still have 8-9 years before I retire. I did say after they are on their life after University, but that’s true Marc. I tell them get their Masters first to grove an edge, get sone experience while always looking to craft a business plan to make your own business. I said you will never get anywhere big for how salaries are here working as a staff member with no access to rewards. It pushing them out ever. My house is not like a typical USA house. Congratulations you are 18, now get out!

Yes if you have the means, I think helping your kids start a business is the way to go in Thailand

Especially since there is a relatively low cost of entry/start up

It is a thought I have, starting a physical therapy clinic for my stepson

Your point on USA houses...................

That is not my experience or impression at all

Most kids in US are treated like kids well into their 20's and parents more than happy to have them home

Now Australia, their kids are much more independent early

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