Firefighter in this month’s factory fire dies suddenly of Covid-19

[Thaiger]

One of the brave firefighters who battled the recent factory fire in Samut Prakan July 5 was diagnosed today with Covid-19, just hours before he died from the virus. Naruphon Wongyaem was among the teams that responded to the explosion at the Ming Dih Chemical Co factory just south of Bangkok in Samut Prakan’s Bang Phli district. After putting out the blaze, the fire department unit chief announced that 10 members of the firefighting team had contracted Covid-19. When the fire exploded around 3 am on July 5, countless firefighters, including Naurphon who was 47 years old, fought the blaze, […]

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[AlexPTY]

take word "suddenly" from the heading and it will not be a news

[AussieBob]

With all the stories coming out about the deaths from covid, it should be clear to all that this is a very bad virus that should be avoided at all costs.  That a fit young firefighter has died, probably leaving a family behind, is yet again another sad reminder of that reality.  Hopefully, and I say that in context, this virus arose through natural causes and was not the result of some scientists, located you know where, 'experimenting'.

The 1918 spanish flu arose from 'nowhere' - there has been many historical cases of whole city/state civilisations disappearing suddenly - the odds are good that this is yet another one. If not - then my wrath will have no limits.  

 

[Objectivance]

Well how unfortunate for him, and fortunate for the company who's financially responsible for the industrial catastrophe. 

[AussieBob]

9 minutes ago, Objectivance said:

Well how unfortunate for him, and fortunate for the company who's financially responsible for the industrial catastrophe. 

True.  I saw something on the net that claimed the company did not have the legal right to stay in that location for many years after it was re-designated when the whole area around swampy became zoned as residential.  The inference of course was that brown envelopes were involved as to why they had not been made to relocate.  These are exactly the sort of things that will show if/when Thailand has moved towards being a country with a clear 'rule of law' ethic, and away from a feudal system of endemic graft and corruption. When the people behind such occurrences are arrested, charged and jailed - and only when that happens - will Thailand start to move in the direction of a rule of law country.  I believe that Thailand can maintain the culture of its society and make that move - and I hope that it one day does happen. The trial and sentencing of the red bull heir for murder would be the icing on the cake.

 

[Objectivance]

4 minutes ago, AussieBob said:

True.  I saw something on the net that claimed the company did not have the legal right to stay in that location for many years after it was re-designated when the whole area around swampy became zoned as residential.  The inference of course was that brown envelopes were involved as to why they had not been made to relocate.  These are exactly the sort of things that will show if/when Thailand has moved towards being a country with a clear 'rule of law' ethic, and away from a feudal system of endemic graft and corruption. When the people behind such occurrences are arrested, charged and jailed - and only when that happens - will Thailand start to move in the direction of a rule of law country.  I believe that Thailand can maintain the culture of its society and make that move - and I hope that it one day does happen. The trial and sentencing of the red bull heir for murder would be the icing on the cake.

It just seems a bit too convenient,  that an otherwise healthy and young individual would "suddenly succumb" to a virus, that has piles of current data showing that it generally is only lethal to the very elderly, or extremely immunocompromised. 

But perhaps he was so close to death from the chemical exposure incurred during the industrial catastrophe, that even a simple infection would've finished him off.

But nonetheless, it's quite suspicious considering the amount of "red tape work arounds" that occur.

[Stardust]

1 hour ago, AussieBob said:

With all the stories coming out about the deaths from covid, it should be clear to all that this is a very bad virus that should be avoided at all costs.  That a fit young firefighter has died, probably leaving a family behind, is yet again another sad reminder of that reality.  Hopefully, and I say that in context, this virus arose through natural causes and was not the result of some scientists, located you know where, 'experimenting'.

The 1918 spanish flu arose from 'nowhere' - there has been many historical cases of whole city/state civilisations disappearing suddenly - the odds are good that this is yet another one. If not - then my wrath will have no limits.  

In europe the scienctist and dna specialist find out that it 99 % it is from a laboratory and according the dna in China and in most likly in Wuhan. The best scienctist in Germany and europe working on that a long time on that and you know it is, how can that be? The receptore of the virus tell something else. By the way the fire station is complete closed because they put the whole unit into qurantine, I hope there is no emergency in this area.

[AussieBob]

 

5 minutes ago, Objectivance said:

It just seems a bit too convenient,  that an otherwise healthy and young individual would "suddenly succumb" to a virus, that has piles of current data showing that it generally is only lethal to the very elderly, or extremely immunocompromised. 

But perhaps he was so close to death from the chemical exposure incurred during the industrial catastrophe, that even a simple infection would've finished him off.

But nonetheless, it's quite suspicious considering the amount of "red tape work arounds" that occur.

You are probably right - those chemicals he was exposed to would have drastically reduced his immune system.  Red Tape suspicions - there is a lot of that in Thailand.

 

[AussieBob]

4 minutes ago, Stardust said:

In europe the scienctist and dna specialist find out that it 99 % it is from a laboratory and according the dna in China and in most likly in Wuhan. The best scienctist in Germany and europe working on that a long time on that and you know it is, how can that be? The receptore of the virus tell something else. By the way the fire station is complete closed because they put the whole unit into qurantine, I hope there is no emergency in this area.

Right now the evidence is unclear, but it is clear that it could have been man made. When we were at the same stage after both SARS and MERS, the previous serious bat-related coronaviruses, the intermediatory host animals had been identified (camel, civet).  But as yet they have not yet identified a virus that is the same as covid19 in any animal, and this is the main reason why speculation as to the origin still exists.

[Stardust]

1 hour ago, AussieBob said:

Right now the evidence is unclear, but it is clear that it could have been man made. When we were at the same stage after both SARS and MERS, the previous serious bat-related coronaviruses, the intermediatory host animals had been identified (camel, civet).  But as yet they have not yet identified a virus that is the same as covid19 in any animal, and this is the main reason why speculation as to the origin still exists.

The scienctis found traces from "gain of function experiments" this you not find on any virus came from a natural way. A few of the best Universities and Professors made teams to analyze it in the teams top dna specialist , virologist and even Physic Professor to analyze natural or not and or by experiments and traces about laboratories.

[Stardust]

1 hour ago, AussieBob said:

Right now the evidence is unclear, but it is clear that it could have been man made. When we were at the same stage after both SARS and MERS, the previous serious bat-related coronaviruses, the intermediatory host animals had been identified (camel, civet).  But as yet they have not yet identified a virus that is the same as covid19 in any animal, and this is the main reason why speculation as to the origin still exists.

You not find in receptors of a virus signs and traces from gain of function experiments if the virus come from nature!

[9S_]

2 hours ago, AussieBob said:

That a fit young firefighter has died

He was 47 years old and depending who you ask 3-8 years before retirement

[AussieBob]

10 minutes ago, Stardust said:

You not find in receptors of a virus signs and traces from gain of function experiments if the virus come from nature!

My thoughts are below.

13 minutes ago, Stardust said:

The scienctis found traces from "gain of function experiments" this you not find on any virus came from a natural way. A few of the best Universities and Professors made teams to analyze it in the teams top dna specialist , virologist and even Physic Professor to analyze natural or not and or by experiments and traces about laboratories.

There has been much argument on both sides of the debate about gain of function analysis of the covid19 virus. The science is not yet in and is not by any means conclusive. Some say it exists and is proof the virus was man made, and others say it does not and it is merely a natural change that has been seen in many other viruses.  There has also been a lot of political activity in USA about this issue, which means that people are lining up on one side of the argument. In time it will become clear how the virus evolved or was developed - there is no way with millions dying that the matter will not be fully and thoroughly investigated once the pandemic is more under control - it will never be over.  I hope the matter gets resolved one way or the other, but I have the feeling that it might forever be an issue of argument.  

[Stardust]

11 minutes ago, AussieBob said:

My thoughts are below.

There has been much argument on both sides of the debate about gain of function analysis of the covid19 virus. The science is not yet in and is not by any means conclusive. Some say it exists and is proof the virus was man made, and others say it does not and it is merely a natural change that has been seen in many other viruses.  There has also been a lot of political activity in USA about this issue, which means that people are lining up on one side of the argument. In time it will become clear how the virus evolved or was developed - there is no way with millions dying that the matter will not be fully and thoroughly investigated once the pandemic is more under control - it will never be over.  I hope the matter gets resolved one way or the other, but I have the feeling that it might forever be an issue of argument.  

To make it a bit more clear

For what makes China all this cover ups and refuse the data access of the sequences and refuses access to laboratory in Wuhan if it is natural. So if it is natural give access to all the datas because it is important for the science to be better prepared for further outbreaks! They refused the access to the WHO and all the sciencetist because they know already where the virus comes from and doesn't want that anybody find any evidence that can confirm what the scincetist already on it. Please give me any explanation why to refuse the access when you not have anything to hide and the virus is natural. That is not by coincidence that Xi prepare China for conflicts. But if you say it is not sure so then explain why their cover up and refuse the access?!

[AussieBob]

3 hours ago, Stardust said:

To make it a bit more clear

For what makes China all this cover ups and refuse the data access of the sequences and refuses access to laboratory in Wuhan if it is natural. So if it is natural give access to all the datas because it is important for the science to be better prepared for further outbreaks! They refused the access to the WHO and all the sciencetist because they know already where the virus comes from and doesn't want that anybody find any evidence that can confirm what the scincetist already on it. Please give me any explanation why to refuse the access when you not have anything to hide and the virus is natural. That is not by coincidence that Xi prepare China for conflicts. But if you say it is not sure so then explain why their cover up and refuse the access?!

I hear you and agree it is very suspicious. But it is not up to you or I to decide - that will be done by other far more qualified people. For now I can only agree that there is reasons to suspect it was 'leaked', but there is no proof (yet).  Maybe there will be - maybe not.