Worst case scenario? 32,000 cases a day, says research

[Stardust]

3 hours ago, Poolie said:

People just like to lash out. Victim syndrome. Makes it easier for them. 

China covered it up and even arrested doctors to keep them quiet. And as many virologist and dna specialist analaysed it us from a laboratory in China mostlikly from Wuhan where they found made experiments with covid viruses. Sure the world should demand compensation from this criminals from ccp China.

[Objectivance]

7 hours ago, EdwardV said:

If they lose this high season, there won’t be anything left to get to the 4th quarter of 2022. The government is already revising the 2021 GDP to .5% growth. That’s not even a dead cat bounce anymore. 

IF? It's already lost, done and dusted.

At this point, 4Q of 2022 is on thin ice.

The only hope for any sort of reinvigoration of seasonal tourism will be super enticing visa schemes and a really inviting baht exchange value. I don't foresee either being suggested nor considered. Those would be seen as a "loss of face" I'd bet, and God forbid.

[Stardust]

8 hours ago, Graham said:

And who do you think is to blame for this fiasco ?

Thailand will be lucky if it can open Q4 2022 at this rate. 

The scramble is now on for different vaccines to be delivered at some point in 2022. I see the clown in charge is asking his cousin if Thailand can delay the purchase of tin cans for the RTN to play with (these should be cancelled, period, they are not required).

TIT.

Anybody who has a bit knowledge of economy knows what huge amounts of money you need to open and restart the country. All the countries who open up now put huge amounts of money into it to do it. Thailand doesn't have anymore that money because of all the mismanagment and incompetance not the population with highest private houshold debts of whole Asia and also not the government. Check the volume of the gdp and all their house and invest was the last years over loans,too(mostl over foreign banks, like Thaiairways,too (USA, Germany, Suisse, Japan). Some Posters say never mind Japan and USA have big debts, too. They doesn't compare the productivity and their gdp in usd compare to Thailand. For the simple minds if you earn 200 usd a month do you think the bank will give a loan for 1 million usd? The central bank said already on a diplomatic way if they cannot open up it will collapse. They will go from lockdown to lockdown to win time and to keep the revolt quiet and try to save their own a...

[Poolie]

23 minutes ago, Stardust said:

China covered it up and even arrested doctors to keep them quiet. And as many virologist and dna specialist analaysed it us from a laboratory in China mostlikly from Wuhan where they found made experiments with covid viruses. Sure the world should demand compensation from this criminals from ccp China.

Sigh, goodnight.

CPC, if you're going to be chopsy at least call them by the correct name. CPC.

[MrStretch]

I don't see how they come up with a limit of 32,000...is this Donald Trump math?

Edited July 20, 2021 by MrStretch

[TiT]

1 hour ago, Objectivance said:

At this point, 4Q of 2022 is on thin ice.

Looking at the success of their vaccine delivery campaigns to date, I think mid-2023 is more realistic for casual travel to potentially resume without copious amounts of red tape.

[King Cotton]

23 minutes ago, MrStretch said:

I don't see how they come up with a limit of 32,000...is this Donald Trump math?

A reasonable suspicion, Mr S, but in terms of equally reasonable and feasible maths, should today's 11,305 figure to be increased by a reasonable 10% per day (given the recent ups-and-downs), for a frighteningly short period of eleven days, there you have it - 32,000 . . . scary, yeah?

[Bangkok_Gary]

"...32,000 bases a day..."  Bases ? Is this an article about baseball ? 

[Stardust]

1 hour ago, yetanother said:

thailand's main macro-economic issue is and will be even-more-so, one of liquidity; they dont have the money and no one will lend it to them

Exactly

[EdwardV]

1 hour ago, yetanother said:

thailand's main macro-economic issue is and will be even-more-so, one of liquidity; they dont have the money and no one will lend it to them

Very true. They only have three places to borrow from: the IMF which they don't qualify (foreign reserves too high), internally which is basically printing money and the Baht would be beat like a redheaded stepchild riding a rented mule, and the open market. The last is the obvious choice but then being owned by foreign banks at a premium rate is a path usually regretted by others. 

[Objectivance]

1 hour ago, yetanother said:

thailand's main macro-economic issue is and will be even-more-so, one of liquidity; they dont have the money and no one will lend it to them

With absolute certainty, the CCP regional rep has been leaving voicemails daily. "Hey, saw you guys may need some loans in the very near future, we'd love to help bros, give me a call back." *chuckles* 

[Stardust]

11 minutes ago, EdwardV said:

Very true. They only have three places to borrow from: the IMF which they don't qualify (foreign reserves too high), internally which is basically printing money and the Baht would be beat like a redheaded stepchild riding a rented mule, and the open market. The last is the obvious choice but then being owned by foreign banks at a premium rate is a path usually regretted by others. 

And the imf has conditions and they have to open the books. All the corruption, irregularities etc will be uncovert. The pants will be down and can bring them behind bars. They trapped themself on the only option for them is trying to win time and find a exit ir jump from the balcony.

[riclag]

8 hours ago, Tish said:

I agree,while the world struggles to cope with this virus China seems to have escaped the blame game for now.As they are 100% to blame for misery inflicted i would love to know what repercussions the rest of the world, if and when this pandemic ever decides to leave us are going to take. The CCP are at best unbelievably stupid and at worst pure evil.I am talking Hitler evil here,and i know which my money is on.

You won't get any arguments from me , except  they are far from stupid ! Their propaganda machine is well oiled !

I can't get my head around the fact that the ccp has escaped world condemnation  for their  deliberate  attempts to deceive !

Only time will tell!

Great comment by the way

 

[Wanderer]

11 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

my cat wants me to stock up on her favorite canned tuna. 

actually last feb i bought a years supply of botted water. 

Last week I panic bought a tin of beans from Villa. 

[Mopi]

Depressing reading. They are certainly past 16000 cases already and doubling every 10 to 14 days (optimistically). At this stage someone should be working out when this wave will peak and planning medical resources according. The UK is predicting a peak in 4 to 6 weeks for its 4th wave but they are in a far stronger position as a result of a successful vaccination program. The UK peak may arrive quicker than the Thai one due to the removal of almost all lockdown restrictions.

[Mopi]

3 hours ago, Objectivance said:

Yeah sure there wasn't. Just like the chubby 20 something guy from Missouri that the alt-left media was high lighting as a "social media covid denier" who they claimed died of it. Then later his family came forward and stated that he had actually died of acute alcohol poisoning. But by that point it'd already been spread to the far reaches of the internet, naturally the media just pretended like it never happened. 

Why worry about 1 guy from Missouri when over 625000 other Americans have already died from Covid ?

[RuralSukhothai]

11 minutes ago, Mopi said:

Why worry about 1 guy from Missouri when over 625000 other Americans have already died from Covid ?

.....and those are official "documented" numbers. Might be twice that in reality. 

[NateUK]

It's quite possible those figures have already been reached. However Thailands testing numbers will always show lower infections. Don't you think it's rather odd that numbers always stay roughly the same each day. This is the Delta variant which doubles infections every 9-10 days. People are starting to die in the streets of Bangkok. But hey, let's all be a cheerleader for the Sandbox, that will fix the economy and help Thai people from dying.

[JamesE]

7 hours ago, Tjampman said:

Why should China be blamed?

I am curious, they didn't force other world leaders to screw up their handling!

Of course,  it originated in China, and they were less than forthright in the beginning, but by the time it spread to other countries it was well reported, yet most of the world just shrugged and hoped for the best.

I mean even now the handling is pretty awful.

China handled this SARS-CoV-2 outbreak exactly like they handled the original SARS back in 2003. They denied it was happening, they hid data, they refused inspections, and they suppressed reporting. That's why there's some blame there. But why anybody believed them at the beginning strains any kind of logic.

Then of course we learned what kind of intellect our leaders possess as they poured fuel on the dumpster-fire that was 2020.

We're still in the middle of this s#!t-show.

[Nobody]

7 hours ago, Tjampman said:

Yes, planning is very easy.

Sorry I meant hoping is very easy...

Yes. It is all planned. They even plan to tell you how many cases per day will be infected based vaccination rates.

[Nobody]

3 hours ago, Stardust said:

Anybody who has a bit knowledge of economy knows what huge amounts of money you need to open and restart the country. All the countries who open up now put huge amounts of money into it to do it. Thailand doesn't have anymore that money because of all the mismanagment and incompetance not the population with highest private houshold debts of whole Asia and also not the government. Check the volume of the gdp and all their house and invest was the last years over loans,too(mostl over foreign banks, like Thaiairways,too (USA, Germany, Suisse, Japan). Some Posters say never mind Japan and USA have big debts, too. They doesn't compare the productivity and their gdp in usd compare to Thailand. For the simple minds if you earn 200 usd a month do you think the bank will give a loan for 1 million usd? The central bank said already on a diplomatic way if they cannot open up it will collapse. They will go from lockdown to lockdown to win time and to keep the revolt quiet and try to save their own a...

Sadly. That's the goal

[Nobody]

Don't worry everyone. Japan has the answers to stop covid. We just have to make sure they can succeed to have their Olympic games. At least it's not as bad as in the Marvel end game. That only 1 possibility out of billions. Was the right one to save half the population of the world. 

[Soidog]

3 hours ago, King Cotton said:

A reasonable suspicion, Mr S, but in terms of equally reasonable and feasible maths, should today's 11,305 figure to be increased by a reasonable 10% per day (given the recent ups-and-downs), for a frighteningly short period of eleven days, there you have it - 32,000 . . . scary, yeah?

It certainly is a scary situation developing. They will control the number initially by controlling the number of tests. The problem will be become obvious by the numbers of deaths being seen. I also think that the Thai authorities will go in to even harder lockdowns if the numbers get to 20,000- 30,000 a day.
 

This is a real problem for Thailand as they have little wriggle room when it comes to balancing case numbers and the economy. At this stage in the pandemic, I think they will protect the economy more than case numbers. It’s also looking as though the supply of vaccines won’t allow for mass vaccination  to start until November or December. This means it won’t be under control until this time next year, at the earliest. 

[MikeTexas]

9 hours ago, yetanother said:

even better than diagnosis...; ivermectin, vitamin D,C ( a Lot of vitamin C)  zinc,curcumin (turmeric) have all shown statistically positive in prevention (prophylaxis) of covid, incl new variants; the studies are mushrooming supporting immune system boosters as a sensible covid path

Interesting.  Those studies haven't made it to the mainstream in the US.  Most of the major universities and  medical groups like Harvard, University of Chicago, etc.  have either said the data is inconclusive or that they can help alleviate symptoms but nothing on prevention.   Unfortunately a lot of the US is skeptical now after the BS solutions that were proposed last year.  It will be interesting what they find over the next year or so as they conduct further studies, broaden the scope of what they investigate, and put together more substantive results. 

[JamesE]

19 minutes ago, Tjampman said:

I might have misquoted you, but my take away is that mushrooms are good for everything...

Bring on the shrooms