Prayut To Be Held Accountable For His Deeds Over Last 9 Years

[KaptainRob]

 

PRIME MINISTER-DESIGNATE Pita Limjaroenrat said today (June 6) caretaker prime minister Prayut Chan-o-cha is yet to be held accountable for whatever loss and damage which he may have caused to the people and country over the last nine years.

At a press conference, the Move Forward leader confirmed Prayut will undoubtedly be held accountable since he rose to power by way of the 2014 coup and ran the country as an unelected head of government up to now.

As army chief, Prayut seized power, named himself head of a military-installed government and exercised absolute power to cope with varied political, social and economic issues at the expense of democratic rule and human rights principles, among others. The coup leader-turned-prime minister was then named the unelected head of a Palang Pracharath-led coalition government following the 2019 election.

By Thai Newsroom Reporters - Full story: https://thainewsroom.com/2023/06/06/prayut-to-be-held-accountable-for-his-deeds-over-last-9-years-pita/

 

Top photo: Caretaker prime minister Prayut Chan-o-cha, left, and Move Forward leader and prime minister candidate Pita Limjaroenrat, right. Both photos by Matichon and merged by Thai Newsroom

 

 

 

[KaptainRob]

Pita is painting a massive target on his back. 

[Marc26]

What does "hold accountable " mean?

 

Would he be jailed?

[Vigo]

1 minute ago, Marc26 said:

What does "hold accountable " mean?

Would he be jailed?

First step in having open hearings or an inquiry. The strategy is to build momentum, to reveal in increments the   wrongdoings such that the public demands a full inquiry.

[Shade_Wilder]

6 minutes ago, KaptainRob said:

Pita is painting a massive target on his back. 

You may be correct about painting a target, but it is absolutely the right thing to do.

The way you deal with a bully is when he knocks you down, you get right up and kick him in the 'nads. And, if he then knocks you down again, you again get right up and kick him in the 'nads. If he knocks you down a third time, get up and give him another swift kick in the 'nads.

If you don't, you lose everything without even trying.

Prayut and his ilk aren't invincible, but if one allows the fear, they may as well be.

The Tsar of Russia was eternal. Until he wasn't.

Hosni Mubarak was eternal. Until he wasn't.

The S Korean Strongmen were eternal. Until they weren't

Suharto was eternal. Until he wasn't.

Ceausescu was eternal. Until he wasn't.

Its a long list.

[Fanta]

8 minutes ago, Shade_Wilder said:

You may be correct about painting a target, but it is absolutely the right thing to do.

Morally it is the right thing to do but is it the best use of resources and is it a winnable fight? Prayut was not alone in his actions and had serious support to initiate the coup and sustain his rule. Prayut won’t take this lying down and will fight back by means foul and fair. Pita, to his own peril, might well be biting off far more than he can chew and he will also be distracted from implementing long needed reforms that affect the entire country. Sometimes it’s best to avoid battles you cannot win so you can live to fight another day. 

[Shade_Wilder]

4 minutes ago, Fanta said:

Morally it is the right thing to do but is it the best use of resources and is it a winnable fight? Prayut was not alone in his actions and had serious support to initiate the coup and sustain his rule. Prayut won’t take this lying down and will fight back by means foul and fair. Pita, to his own peril, might well be biting off far more than he can chew and he will also be distracted from implementing long needed reforms that affect the entire country. Sometimes it’s best to avoid battles you cannot win so you can live to fight another day. 

If you were Ukrainian, you'd have surrendered Kiev without a shot.

If one doesn't have the courage for a fight, then one shouldn't try to become PM.

[Fanta]

1 hour ago, Shade_Wilder said:

If you were Ukrainian, you'd have surrendered Kiev without a shot

You are wrong. I hope I wouldn’t have been naive/arrogant enough to allow diplomacy to fail so badly as to reach the final resort of war. 

1 hour ago, Shade_Wilder said:

If one doesn't have the courage for a fight, then one shouldn't try to become PM.

The question is not of courage or willpower. It is risk assessment and return on investment. Prayut didn’t get to where he was without substantial support from powerful players already embedded in Thai society. For example, he overthrew a sitting prime minister and later had her convicted in the Supreme Court. That takes far more power than he alone ever held. 

[Marc26]

1 hour ago, Shade_Wilder said:

If you were Ukrainian, you'd have surrendered Kiev without a shot.

If one doesn't have the courage for a fight, then one shouldn't try to become PM.

Thailand is not Ukraine 

Nothing has happened even remotely close

 

@Fanta had a very rational and intelligent post

 

What does the country better

Fighting a messy battle, to what gain?

 

Or get going on things that help the people?

[Rookiescot]

29 minutes ago, Marc26 said:

Thailand is not Ukraine 

Nothing has happened even remotely close

@Fanta had a very rational and intelligent post

What does the country better

Fighting a messy battle, to what gain?

Or get going on things that help the people?

Evidently you dont read Fantas posts on the Ukraine thread. He is a massive Putin fan and no matter what atrocities Russia commits he defends them to the hilt.

If you are looking for rational and intelligent then you have the wrong guy.

[Shade_Wilder]

Respectfully, you are both wrong.

Pita/MF/the Democratic Forces have a strong clear mandate, and that mandate will never be stronger than it is now. The goal of the Royalist Conservative Military Faction will be to chip away at that mandate.

Now is the time to use it.

Ever wonder why the current constitution delays the formal handover of power for several months? It is to allow a Democratic mandate to wane, and to allow the slow chipping away of that mandate by the "Independent" agencies. Do you think Pita and his colleagues are going to be stronger in a year? Two years? If they don't show some backbone now, they will be ground away by faceless bureaucratic entities. Ever wonder why the EC and the Constitutional Court suddenly are interested in Pita's shares? And why there is no immediate decision/ruling? And why a May 13th National Election doesn't hand over power until...August? Later? Ever wonder why the Bangkok Post has daily stories casting doubt on whether Pita will be allowed to rule (hint: it is to put him in his place)? And why perhaps the election might have to be re-run?

The Thai people just gave Pita/MF/the Democratic Forces a strong mandate.

Use it or lose it.

[Guest1]

3 hours ago, KaptainRob said:

Pita is painting a massive target on his back. 

With a big smug smile on his face!

[Karolyn]

Will he be held accountable for tolerating the spread, of anti-Thai 'democracy' activists? Obviously fake grassroots, stirred up by foreign governments? Funny such a Fascist never curtailed foreign influences of that nature. Or for being in charge, as he was, while abortion was legalised, in a beautiful Buddhist nation? I mean has Thai society had a national revival, just because Prayut said he admires Hitler?

(Which is scarcely shocking, in Asia, where young people dip into Fascist chic, for example. I ask Asians what they think of Hitler, and correctly, toey just say he was a Chancellor of Germany, who lost a famous war.) 

The more a government in charge LOOKS patriotic, it seems, they never deliver. Take a look at Trump. He promised ordinary white Americans, a wall. Well have they got a wall? No. And look at Brexit, it was obviously engineered to be botched, and teach the Hoi polloi a lesson, just because ordinary people asked for it.

Yet the more the subversives, not least the immigrants in a country, will still whine just because they saw a flag or two on show. "Oh my God Prayut flew a flag, don't the brownish yellow people know what year it is?" Needs million dollar NGOs, to fund 'em some democracy, tell them what to think on their own behalf.

Ironically the old Marxists were right. Governments are set up to win by dogwhistle politics. If Prayut, Turmp, Boris, or the like, are politically genuine and not entirely careerist, they don't get to enact the laws - or the societal values - that the population actually votes in. 

Ordinary people don't win by populism. But is artogant anti-populism, or fake grassroots, any better? Don't think so.

You come to Asia to escape this shit. And it still follows you here. 

[palooka]

On 7/7/2023 at 3:10 AM, Karolyn said:

I ask Asians what they think of Hitler, and correctly, toey just say he was a Chancellor of Germany, who lost a famous war.) 

You must live in Bangkok, I have asked a similar question here (Provinces) and get a confused look (who's Hitler) from Master degree graduate teachers.

Thais struggle to understand what happens in their village and how to cope with it, upgrade to Provincial politics and they are nearly lost. Hence for a greater percentage of the population, International is way past them.