News Forum - Child harmed from mistakenly eating cannabis jellies

[Thaiger]

Just because you are eating them like candy doesn’t mean children should be eating cannabis jellies. After a young patient was hospitalized for severe palpitations and irregular heartbeat, a Thai doctor issued a warning. He said that children should not be allowed to consume cannabis jellies. Dr Smith Srison, the director of the Medical Council …

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[HolyCowCm]

Article quote: Dr Smith believes that if those involved in legalizing cannabis do not create regulations, the country will be at risk of more and more accidents and incidents involving the drug. He called for regulations to be tightened to a standard similar to other countries.

So they should also think about regulating people getting licenses and buying vehicles to ride and drive and about wanting too many tourists. This guy is a quack. 

[Gene]

Cannabis candy should be outlawed.  Too dangerous for kids.

[TheDirtyDurian]

2 hours ago, Gene said:

Cannabis candy should be outlawed.  Too dangerous for kids.

"The shop that sold the candies cannot be reported to the police since they are no longer classified as drugs so the sale was legal." 

I thought that cannabis product that gives an effect could only be sold to over 21s. Surely the shop is at fault. 

[Skip]

Yes... of course let's blame everything and everyone not responsible to deflect the blame from the shop and it's owner... there are enough laws and guidelines already outlining the safe use of cannabis in society... but as with every other law in THAILAND there is no follow-through with enforcement unless there's a brown envelope to be "earned"

[Manu]

27 minutes ago, Skip said:

Yes... of course let's blame everything and everyone not responsible to deflect the blame from the shop and it's owner... there are enough laws and guidelines already outlining the safe use of cannabis in society... but as with every other law in THAILAND there is no follow-through with enforcement unless there's a brown envelope to be "earned"

Amazingly, the shop owner did nothing illegal. Morally of course it is a different story: what kind of idiot (to stay polite) would sell that to a kid. Unfortunately it is not illegal to be an idiot (again, to stay polite and it is not easy).

And the shop owner did nothing illegal cause literally... there is no regulations at all. They basically legalised cannabis before making the laws surrounding its use, sale, etc... Cannabis legalisation is a huge political tool and it is then one has to realise that (unfortunately) Anutin has more power than one could give him credit for. But if a perticular party wins the elections in May (one can believe in miracles), the cannabis party will be completely over in Thailand.

Great article here explaining everything as it still is currently although it was written back in October

https://www.vice.com/en/article/4ax5dd/thailand-cannabis-legalization

[Skip]

3 minutes ago, Manu said:

Amazingly, the shop owner did nothing illegal. Morally of course it is a different story: what kind of idiot (to stay polite) would sell that to a kid. Unfortunately it is not illegal to be an idiot (again, to stay polite and it is not easy).

And the shop owner did nothing illegal cause literally... there is no regulations at all. They basically legalised cannabis before making the laws surrounding its use, sale, etc... Cannabis legalisation is a huge political tool and it is then one has to realise that (unfortunately) Anutin has more power than one could give him credit for. But if a perticular party wins the elections in May (one can believe in miracles), the cannabis party will be completely over in Thailand.

Great article here explaining everything as it still is currently although it was written back in October

https://www.vice.com/en/article/4ax5dd/thailand-cannabis-legalization

"But as criticism mounted over a lack of regulation and the easy accessibility of cannabis, the government issued an emergency order in mid-June addressing the most glaring loopholes in the cannabis free-for-all, banning sales to anyone under 20, pregnant, or breastfeeding."

 

Quote taken from your cited article... obviously you didn't read the whole thing.  The shop acted illegally by selling cannabis to a minor... no matter what for it is in doesn't change the fact that it is cannabis and is restricted in who can purchase it.

[Manu]

45 minutes ago, Skip said:

"But as criticism mounted over a lack of regulation and the easy accessibility of cannabis, the government issued an emergency order in mid-June addressing the most glaring loopholes in the cannabis free-for-all, banning sales to anyone under 20, pregnant, or breastfeeding."

Quote taken from your cited article... obviously you didn't read the whole thing.  The shop acted illegally by selling cannabis to a minor... no matter what for it is in doesn't change the fact that it is cannabis and is restricted in who can purchase it.

Well yes I did read it but fully, unlike you it seems. It goes on...

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The Cannabis and Hemp Bill, which passed its first reading on June 8, a day before legalization, was meant to fill this gap. According to details released by authorities before the bill went into its second reading in September, there would be a ban on selling or advertising cannabis products online, and only Thai nationals 20 years old and above would be able to grow cannabis for commercial purposes. It also reaffirmed the restriction of sales to those below 20, pregnant, or breastfeeding. 

However, the bill has since stalled in parliament, after opponents—most prominently the opposition Pheu Thai Party and coalition partners Democrat Party—voted to have it withdrawn from a parliamentary session in September, claiming that it contained loopholes and did not go far enough to curb recreational use among the public. The bill’s future appears to be anyone’s guess, with the House committee chairman saying that they may not have enough time to discuss it when parliament reconvenes on Nov. 2, while an upcoming election slated for next year threatens to shake up existing parliamentary dynamics. 

So no, unfortunately the shop owner did NOTHING illegal. So no,currently no restrictions on who can purchase it. No law passed yet so no illegality. Fact.

[Mamachigawa]

I don't believe they didn't know. But  the problem is with the parent keeping it out of reach like anything other medicine or dangerous item.  When my little sister was in diapers  funny story parents were not watching closely and she drank from the badults beverage cups they left on a low coffee table. Next thing she is no longer toddling but stumbling down the hallway drunk.

 

[thaicm]

Hard to believe the police were not aware of the updates that prohibited the sale to minors.  Not hard to believe there was some other reason (Ka-Ching) the owner wasn't held responsible.

[BangRon]

 

Why the continued click bait fake news Neil? You’re continued journalism is at its worse; just makin stuff up. Cannabis jellies are NOT legal in Thailand, nor any marijuana product with more than .2% THC, unless specifically licensed as a medicine. Cannabis products can NOT be sold to anyone under 20 years old. Related to your fairytale; the shop that sold the gummies can, and should be prosecuted for selling unlicensed and illegal drugs, along with selling to an underaged child. (X2 offenses that could be prosecuted against the seller). Deem the alleged child’s parent should contact a lawyer that understands current cannabis laws in Thailand. Also, melodrama on the ridiculous headline “mistakenly eating cannabis” what kid goes into a shop and thinks a 1,000 thb piece of candy is some new sweet, and then buys a few of them just to try them out. Shoddy Thai Tiger fake news journalism.

 

[TWS60]

Of course marijuana needs common sense rules and regs in place, same as cigarettes, alcohol, firearms, nuclear tipped rocket launchers, etc.  What the hell is Bangkok waiting for?  This is a Gazette no-brainer, but there's also no need to overreact to a one-off, which is precisely what the anti-weed brigade, and the Muslim religious sect, is trying to foment in the name of Saving the Children; which is good of course, but it's also an oft used raison d'etre because it's virtually unimpeachable at face value, and thus muddies up the underlying motivation of activists and crusaders.  

Can't get through the article without trotting out the good old Reefer Madness spectacle where people on weed attack people, rape women, and then jump head first out a high glass window.   Meth?  Yeah, probably, plenty of news stories over the years about wild-eyed, machete wielding Tweakers.   Alcohol?  You bet! 

Weed?  Meh, I'll go out on a limb here and say the most common reaction is laughing whilst attempting to order a large pepperoni pizza on GRAB, followed by a nice long nap half-way through a 2-hour Youtube video about the wonders of outer space. 

Having said that, I would agree that one area of sensible regulation should (also) be the THC quantity and potency of the weed being cultivated these days - some of which is borderline weapons grade.   Edibles too, which are processed through the liver and creates an intense body high that lasts a helluva lot longer than smoking does.  I can only imagine how scary and unpleasant it would be for a kid.  That's a red-line. 

 Just my sense that we're nearing the peak of this Wild West weed fad, same as we suffered through with the hamburger craze.  I mean really, how many 1/2 pound burger patties can you pile on before the whole thing becomes laughably dumb and people simply move on. 

[Ramanathan.P]

Those regulators have open the flood gate for their own benefit and are seeing the rippling effects now. This will be a never ending story. Unless they reverse the decision, nothing can be done as the law is full of loopholes which cannot be patched permanently. This is something like the stroke that swallows the catfish by the tail and get stuck at the long neck of the stroke

 

[Manu]

20 hours ago, thaicm said:

Hard to believe the police were not aware of the updates that prohibited the sale to minors.  Not hard to believe there was some other reason (Ka-Ching) the owner wasn't held responsible.

What "updates"?? Read my posts above including the link to an article I provided that explains clearly the current (mad...but then it is Thailand after all) situation. No law has been passed so there is NO regulation whatoever, not even sale to minors. The situation will probably stay the same until the next elections as it is a huge political tool between the pro legalisation and the against. Unfortunately if the shop owner has a licence, and nothing in that story indicates otherwise, then he has done nothing illegal.

[Manu]

18 hours ago, BangRon said:

Why the continued click bait fake news Neil? You’re continued journalism is at its worse; just makin stuff up. Cannabis jellies are NOT legal in Thailand, nor any marijuana product with more than .2% THC, unless specifically licensed as a medicine. Cannabis products can NOT be sold to anyone under 20 years old. Related to your fairytale; the shop that sold the gummies can, and should be prosecuted for selling unlicensed and illegal drugs, along with selling to an underaged child. (X2 offenses that could be prosecuted against the seller). Deem the alleged child’s parent should contact a lawyer that understands current cannabis laws in Thailand. Also, melodrama on the ridiculous headline “mistakenly eating cannabis” what kid goes into a shop and thinks a 1,000 thb piece of candy is some new sweet, and then buys a few of them just to try them out. Shoddy Thai Tiger fake news journalism.

He seems you stopped following this matter back in June... Read my posts above including the link to an article I provided that explains clearly the current (mad...but then it is Thailand after all) situation. No law has been passed so there is NO regulation whatoever, not even sale to minors. And unfortunately if the shop owner has a licence, and nothing in that story indicates otherwise (where did you get the info that he was "unlicenced"??), then he has done nothing illegal.

[HiuMak]

Legalizing Cannabis is about money. All these social problems that comes with it is ignored by the same people who only cares about $$$.

[Skip]

22 hours ago, Manu said:

Well yes I did read it but fully, unlike you it seems. It goes on...

So no, unfortunately the shop owner did NOTHING illegal. So no,currently no restrictions on who can purchase it. No law passed yet so no illegality. Fact.

Actually the bill that failed to be passed was a rewrite with loopholes added... it failure to pass in no way negated the previous emergency order in mid-June addressing the most glaring loopholes in the cannabis free-for-all, banning sales to anyone under 20, pregnant, or breastfeeding."