News Forum - American clinic says nutrient in eggs could increase risk of blood clots

[Thaiger]

An American clinic says that a nutrient found in eggs could make people more prone to blood clotting. Cleveland Clinic conducted a study that suggested that the nutrient choline could increase the risk of blood clots, when consumed in high concentrations.  According to Medical News Today, the body makes some choline, but most of it …

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[Faraday]

Couldn't find a link to the Medical News Today article, but I did find this from 2 years ago.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0002934321002291

"Despite their high choline content, daily consumption of 4 eggs over 4 weeks did not substantially raise fasting concentrations of TMAO or impact platelet reactivity,...."

If anyone can find the article from the MNT, I'd be very interested in reading it.

[MrNovax]

2 questions:

1 - Are people really this stupid?

2 - Do they think people are really this stupid?

its amazing how many thing have been discovered to cause blood clots, strokes, and heart attacks in the last 2 years.  even more amazing that all these things have been around since forever and we are just now learning this and seeing it unfold.  

Edited January 26, 2023 by MrNovax

[Chatogaster]

  On 1/26/2023 at 9:07 AM, Faraday said:

Couldn't find a link to the Medical News Today article, but I did find this from 2 years ago.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0002934321002291

"Despite their high choline content, daily consumption of 4 eggs over 4 weeks did not substantially raise fasting concentrations of TMAO or impact platelet reactivity,...."

If anyone can find the article from the MNT, I'd be very interested in reading it.

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The source seems to be your link or equivalently,

1) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33872583/

which was put into layman's terms by the MNT in

2) https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322672#Gut-bacteria-and-the-heart

which was further dumbed down in

3) https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1554078/blood-clot-risks-eggs-meats-choline

and then further translated into mostly 1-syllable words by:

4) https://www.planet-today.com/2023/01/scientists-warn-eggs-are-causing.html

and now in

5/6/7/8?) Thaiger
 

Correction: 2 may not be a translation of 1: it seems inconsistent with the time-line, unless there was a 2-year gap between pre-publication and publication. That wouldn't be unheard of, but it leaves the possibility of there being a later MNT article (or perhaps and just as likely: a journalist down the chain found an apple and a pear and decided to make an orange out of them).

[Soidog]

  On 1/26/2023 at 1:18 PM, MrNovax said:

2 questions:

1 - Are people really this stupid?

2 - Do they think people are really this stupid?

its amazing how many thing have been discovered to cause blood clots, strokes, and heart attacks in the last 2 years.  even more amazing that all these things have been around since forever and we are just now learning this and seeing it unfold.  

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Just to balance that. Plenty around before 2020 (see below). News items such as this and your perception of them are related to something called the “Baader Meinhof Phenomena” or “Frequency Illusion”  https://www.healthline.com/health/baader-meinhof-phenomenon#why-that-name

https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2019/04/02/research-unlocks-biomechanic-mystery-behind-deadly-blood-clots.html

https://publishing.aip.org/publications/latest-content/laying-out-directions-for-future-of-reliable-blood-clotting-molecule-models/

https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/research/fat-and-blood-clots

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/protein-c-deficiency/

[MrNovax]

  On 1/26/2023 at 3:09 PM, Soidog said:

Just to balance that. Plenty around before 2020 (see below). News items such as this and your perception of them are related to something called the “Baader Meinhof Phenomena” or “Frequency Illusion”  https://www.healthline.com/health/baader-meinhof-phenomenon#why-that-name

https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2019/04/02/research-unlocks-biomechanic-mystery-behind-deadly-blood-clots.html

https://publishing.aip.org/publications/latest-content/laying-out-directions-for-future-of-reliable-blood-clotting-molecule-models/

https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/research/fat-and-blood-clots

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/condition/protein-c-deficiency/

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I'm aware that there are scientific studies going on all the time. 

Please link me a few articles from before 2020 that are in the corporate (mainstream) media about how common foods area leading to blood clots, strokes, heart attacks, etc.  

Young healthy people are falling over daily and we are supposed to pretend we dont know why, its normal, or that things like eggs are causing it.  

[Soidog]

  On 1/26/2023 at 4:00 PM, MrNovax said:

I'm aware that there are scientific studies going on all the time. 

Please link me a few articles from before 2020 that are in the corporate (mainstream) media about how common foods area leading to blood clots, strokes, heart attacks, etc.  

Young healthy people are falling over daily and we are supposed to pretend we dont know why, its normal, or that things like eggs are causing it.  

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Here you go. 
 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6813787/amp/You-yolking-Study-finds-egg-day-increases-risk-stroke-death-critics-spot-cracks.html

https://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/21/us/fatty-meals-pose-risk-within-hours.html

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/nutrient-choline-eggs-meat-linked-to-blood-clotting-heart-disease/

[stuhan]

If you worry about eating or drinking everything these people tell you, you will have a heart attack just thinking about it, eat and drink what you like,live your life as you wish most of this info is bullxxit.

[Grumpish]

So too much of something is bad for you? Without knowing how many eggs the supplement was equivalent to, the whole thing is nonsense - others have linked to articles saying that four a day is no risk, which is still quite a lot of eggs. 

[Marc26]

  On 1/27/2023 at 2:31 AM, Grumpish said:

So too much of something is bad for you? Without knowing how many eggs the supplement was equivalent to, the whole thing is nonsense - others have linked to articles saying that four a day is no risk, which is still quite a lot of eggs. 

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Isn't too much of a lot of things bad for you? Or at least you should check if it is?

At least that has always been my belief, I seem to be always checking how much of something I should consume if I am eating something quite often

[Smithydog]

My Cardiologist is happy for me to be consuming eggs and plenty of them. He says that they are full of good nutrients for the body. His only request....don't eat the yellow part as that is what throws up my bad cholesterol!

Pity, as that to me is real the yummy bit! Family is more important to me so I simply go without. 

[Marc26]

  On 1/28/2023 at 12:10 AM, Smithydog said:

My Cardiologist is happy for me to be consuming eggs and plenty of them. He says that they are full of good nutrients for the body. His only request....don't eat the yellow part as that is what throws up my bad cholesterol!

Pity, as that to me is real the yummy bit! Family is more important to me so I simply go without. 

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I think you can have some yolk here and there

If I am making an omelet or scrambled eggs and want to watch the yolk intake

I will have 3 eggs but use just 1 yolk