News Forum - Perverted teacher sacked after sending video of under age sex acts to school chat group

[Thaiger]

A perverted teacher who had sex with underage children in Nakhon Ratchasima and accidentally sent videos of the acts to a group chat has been sacked while a police investigation is underway. The teacher allegedly tried to commit suicide when the news broke. The unnamed arts teacher at Non Sungsritani Secondary School in Non Sung …

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[Karolyn]

Children as in children, with no public hair? Or young adults, who knew themselves, a law was being broken? It's hard not to be cynical about statutory rape shit, or for that matter, anything DIY porn related, in the age of the mobile phone cam. TLDR I bet anyone with pubes, knew what Sir was doing

[Soidog]

5 minutes ago, Karolyn said:

Children as in children, with no public hair? Or young adults, who knew themselves, a law was being broken? It's hard not to be cynical about statutory rape shit, or for that matter, anything DIY porn related, in the age of the mobile phone cam. TLDR I bet anyone with pubes, knew what Sir was doing

It’s not just about knowing what they were doing. It’s the ability of adults to manipulate and groom juveniles. There are good reasons why it’s against the law in the vast majority of countries. It’s not a simple matter of knowing or even consenting. That’s no excuse. I think he should be given state help to commit suicide if found guilty. 

[Karolyn]

19 minutes ago, Soidog said:

It’s not just about knowing what they were doing. It’s the ability of adults to manipulate and groom juveniles. There are good reasons why it’s against the law in the vast majority of countries. It’s not a simple matter of knowing or even consenting. That’s no excuse. I think he should be given state help to commit suicide if found guilty. 

Is there any law against college tutors 'preying on' undergrads? It's only the same.. Inexperienced youth but also... they're not babies. Where exactly do you draw the line, other than the ability, to understand the consequences of sexual activities?

With that said, I do like the Argentinian law. The age of consent there is 13, including with any older partner. Unless there is a position of authority. How would you define 'power imbalance', in any meaningful way? 

The problem is, girls find authority sexy. (Boys less so.) Is a man really a predator, if the girl is willing? Has the concept of rape, not lost its meaning, if no one was actually hurt? 

Feminism, war on men, and all that. I'd actually side with MRAs, instead of feminists on this, because feminism nowadays, infantilises women, talks crap about privilege, has anti-scientific perspectives on sex and human sexuality, etc, etc. 

 

Edited January 17, 2023 by Karolyn

[Soidog]

24 minutes ago, Karolyn said:

Is there any law against college tutors 'preying on' undergrads? It's only the same.. Inexperienced youth but also... they're not babies. Where exactly do you draw the line, other than the ability, to understand the consequences of sexual activities?

With that said, I do like the Argentinian law. The age of consent there is 13, including with any older partner. Unless there is a position of authority. How would you define 'power imbalance', in any meaningful way? 

The problem is, girls find authority sexy. (Boys less so.) Is a man really a predator, if the girl is willing? Has the concept of rape, not lost its meaning, if no one was actually hurt? 

Feminism, war on men, and all that. I'd actually side with MRAs, instead of feminists on this, because feminism nowadays, infantilises women, talks crap about privilege, has anti-scientific perspectives on sex and human sexuality, etc, etc. 

The issue is the relationship of authority with the adult and the juvenile along with opportunity provided by the relationship. This is why most cases like this relate to teachers and older family members or older family friends. The inexperienced juvenile looks up to the older person and offers a level of trust that is then abused. It’s not that girls find authority “sexy” it’s that they feel safe with a person they trust. That trust is then abused for sexual gratification on the part of the abuser. .
 

As for you conflating this case with feminism then I simply don’t understand where you are coming from. Feminism is totally different and nothing to do with child abuse. The only way these issue are related is in the minds of men who think all girls and women are there for sexual reasons. 

[Karolyn]

27 minutes ago, Soidog said:

The issue is the relationship of authority with the adult and the juvenile along with opportunity provided by the relationship. This is why most cases like this relate to teachers and older family members or older family friends. The inexperienced juvenile looks up to the older person and offers a level of trust that is then abused. It’s not that girls find authority “sexy” it’s that they feel safe with a person they trust. That trust is then abused for sexual gratification on the part of the abuser. .
 

As for you conflating this case with feminism then I simply don’t understand where you are coming from. Feminism is totally different and nothing to do with child abuse. The only way these issue are related is in the minds of men who think all girls and women are there for sexual reasons. 

"It’s not that girls find authority “sexy” it’s that they feel safe with a person they trust."... I disagree with you, TBH. Female fetish preferences are biased toward role play as cops and such authority figures. Of course, it might be wrong to take advantage, but it's scarcely paedo-ism.

I can't see a sensible demarcation, nor can I see why some vulnerable adults be protected by law, but not others. For example, PUAs might look for vulnerable women to exploit after breakups and the like, but that's legal. I font see a difference. It's not that I approve the behavior, but that legislation attempts, have unfair and unintended consequences

[Soidog]

1 hour ago, Karolyn said:

"It’s not that girls find authority “sexy” it’s that they feel safe with a person they trust."... I disagree with you, TBH. Female fetish preferences are biased toward role play as cops and such authority figures. Of course, it might be wrong to take advantage, but it's scarcely paedo-ism.

I can't see a sensible demarcation, nor can I see why some vulnerable adults be protected by law, but not others. For example, PUAs might look for vulnerable women to exploit after breakups and the like, but that's legal. I font see a difference. It's not that I approve the behavior, but that legislation attempts, have unfair and unintended consequences

The difference is age and the law. The age of consent being the law. If you break that law then you should pay a price. Where a female has perhaps lied consistently to the adult about their age then there are grounds, perhaps, for some level of excuse. However, in this particular case then there was no doubt this person was aware of both the persons age and the laws in the country. Therefore they need to be prosecuted and if found guilty they pay the price for their actions. 
 

This is not a debate about women liking control or having a fetish towards power or authority, nor is a case of the girl knowing what she was doing and even encouraging an inter mate and sexual relationship. This is a simple matter of a person knowing the girl or girls were under age as defined in the law of the country. That’s it I’m afraid. 

[Faraday]

3 hours ago, Karolyn said:

Is there any law against college tutors 'preying on' undergrads? It's only the same.. Inexperienced youth but also... they're not babies. Where exactly do you draw the line, other than the ability, to understand the consequences of sexual activities?

With the age of consent, that's where the line is drawn.

[Karolyn]

4 hours ago, Faraday said:

With the age of consent, that's where the line is drawn.

Its a laughable limit, though. A bit like the drinking age, only no ones life is ruined, when a teen lies to a barkeep about their age.

Years, ago, at least, I remember reading in a BBC book, that 19 year old girls have (or had) more unwanted pregnancies, than (say) 14 or 16 year olds. 

You think it's realist to 'save' 14 and maybe 16 year olds? But not 19 year olds, who are, if anything, more, at risk from predatory men?

You can of course, take such observations either way. But few people are into raising the age of consent so high. 

[Karolyn]

5 hours ago, Soidog said:

The difference is age and the law. The age of consent being the law. If you break that law then you should pay a price. Where a female has perhaps lied consistently to the adult about their age then there are grounds, perhaps, for some level of excuse. However, in this particular case then there was no doubt this person was aware of both the persons age and the laws in the country. Therefore they need to be prosecuted and if found guilty they pay the price for their actions. 
 

This is not a debate about women liking control or having a fetish towards power or authority, nor is a case of the girl knowing what she was doing and even encouraging an inter mate and sexual relationship. This is a simple matter of a person knowing the girl or girls were under age as defined in the law of the country. That’s it I’m afraid. 

Rubbish, the age of consent in England, was like 12 until the age of the Suffragettes. And even afterwards, prosecution was rare, unless pimping or physical abuse were involved. To this day, and especially today, media fuss and even convictions over underage sex, are ridiculously skewed against the male sex. 

[Pinetree]

8 hours ago, Karolyn said:

Is there any law against college tutors 'preying on' undergrads?

Yes

[Pinetree]

9 minutes ago, Karolyn said:

Rubbish, the age of consent in England, was like 12 until the age of the Suffragettes. And even afterwards, prosecution was rare, unless pimping or physical abuse were involved. To this day, and especially today, media fuss and even convictions over underage sex, are ridiculously skewed against the male sex. 

You are speaking nonsense.  Years ago, starving children were also deported, or even hanged, for stealing bread.  Are you seriously using history in this way as evidence for your unacceptable views?  If so, then your ignorance is manifest.  

[HiuMak]

This pervert is really dumb, posting all his wrong doings in social media. 

[Karolyn]

11 minutes ago, Pinetree said:

You are speaking nonsense.  Years ago, starving children were also deported, or even hanged, for stealing bread.  Are you seriously using history in this way as evidence for your unacceptable views?  If so, then your ignorance is manifest.  

Well there was no war on men, back then. Harm aversion, sentimentality, and listen and believe, have eroded social trust, normal gender norms, and normal child upbringing. 

[Faraday]

38 minutes ago, Karolyn said:

Its a laughable limit, though. A bit like the drinking age, only no ones life is ruined, when a teen lies to a barkeep about their age.

Years, ago, at least, I remember reading in a BBC book, that 19 year old girls have (or had) more unwanted pregnancies, than (say) 14 or 16 year olds. 

You think it's realist to 'save' 14 and maybe 16 year olds? But not 19 year olds, who are, if anything, more, at risk from predatory men?

You can of course, take such observations either way. But few people are into raising the age of consent so high. 

It might be laughable Karolyn, yes. But how else can we protect the children & young adults? Obviously we can't assess individual cases, so age has to be a factor.

But when I was young - if I remember correctly as it was so long ago , we were much less mature, physically & mentally. Now, what were children 50+ years ago, are much more advanced & doing all sorts of dreadful things, in my aged opinion.

Jezuz....I sound like an old fella....oh... wait a minute, I am.555!

[Thommo]

12 hours ago, Karolyn said:

Children as in children, with no public hair? Or young adults, who knew themselves, a law was being broken? It's hard not to be cynical about statutory rape shit, or for that matter, anything DIY porn related, in the age of the mobile phone cam. TLDR I bet anyone with pubes, knew what Sir was doing

who would defends the actions of pedophile?