What are Health Services like in your country?

[Marble-eye]

  On 2/13/2023 at 3:36 AM, WilliamG said:

The former may need foodbanks or struggle financially, the latter do not.

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People earning £36000 a year do not need food banks, only irresponsible people who cannot budget. There are many people earning a fraction of what they get that are not greedy enough to use food banks. I can't remember food banks in the 50s and 60s when people were earning a pittance because those people didn't buy things they couldn't afford.

[WilliamG]

  On 2/13/2023 at 3:45 AM, Marble-eye said:

People earning £36000 a year do not need food banks, only irresponsible people who cannot budget. There are many people earning a fraction of what they get that are not greedy enough to use food banks. I can't remember food banks in the 50s and 60s when people were earning a pittance because those people didn't buy things they couldn't afford.

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If a nurse on £720 a week has got three school-age children to feed healthily and clothe, needs to run a car to get them to school, needs good broadband so the kids can all do their homework at the same time, then I can see that there would not be a lot left for weekend. But, yes as you say, proper budgeting is the answer.

[Onthedimside]

NHS is far better in uk if your an illegal immigrant or in prison , same a housing , illegals jump queues and uk homeless left on streets but politicians feel that are helping because their voices get heard where their pockets can be filled , NHS managers should be reduced and stop the diversity and over non productive bs,  NHS should be legally protected against lawsuits, so not need lawyers , if you got problem with that go private , let the money be spent on doctors nursing and medications 

[Pinetree]

UK and its sxxt, not fit for purpose, inefficient, a black hole for public funds and, frankly,. dangerous to many of its patients.  And just try to get a Doctors or Dentists appointment;  bloody good luck with that ambition. 

[Pinetree]

  On 2/14/2023 at 1:30 AM, WilliamG said:

If a nurse on £720 a week has got three school-age children to feed healthily and clothe, needs to run a car to get them to school, needs good broadband so the kids can all do their homework at the same time, then I can see that there would not be a lot left for weekend. But, yes as you say, proper budgeting is the answer.

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Then don't have kids or cars.  Its not rocket science.  Don't live above your income and if its not enough, then change your job.  

[Pinetree]

  On 2/13/2023 at 3:45 AM, Marble-eye said:

People earning £36000 a year do not need food banks, only irresponsible people who cannot budget. There are many people earning a fraction of what they get that are not greedy enough to use food banks. I can't remember food banks in the 50s and 60s when people were earning a pittance because those people didn't buy things they couldn't afford.

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Quite right 

[Marc26]

  On 2/13/2023 at 3:45 AM, Marble-eye said:

People earning £36000 a year do not need food banks, only irresponsible people who cannot budget. There are many people earning a fraction of what they get that are not greedy enough to use food banks. I can't remember food banks in the 50s and 60s when people were earning a pittance because those people didn't buy things they couldn't afford.

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Come on

"Earning a pittance" when you could buy a house for 20k

But I do agree that they didn't buy things they couldn't afford and we, as a whole, are very guilty of that 

[Marble-eye]

  On 5/13/2023 at 1:52 PM, Marc26 said:

Come on

"Earning a pittance" when you could buy a house for 20k

But I do agree that they didn't buy things they couldn't afford and we, as a whole, are very guilty of that 

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Most people in the 50s and 60s probably rented, my personal circumstance as an apprentice engineer I was earning £2 a week and a pound of that went to my mother for board and my food, and to put things in perspective a pint of beer was 1 and 8pence, 1 gall of petrol was 3s and 6pence. Yes it was a pittance Mark, did you live through those times? 

[Marc26]

  On 5/13/2023 at 2:16 PM, Marble-eye said:

Most people in the 50s and 60s probably rented, my personal circumstance as an apprentice engineer I was earning £2 a week and a pound of that went to my mother for board and my food, and to put things in perspective a pint of beer was 1 and 8pence, 1 gall of petrol was 3s and 6pence. Yes it was a pittance Mark, did you live through those times? 

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No I'm not that old

But millions of people were able to afford to buy houses in the 50-60's on the wages back then

And it's a lot harder now to buy a house for people 

[Marble-eye]

  On 5/14/2023 at 12:05 AM, Marc26 said:

No I'm not that old

But millions of people were able to afford to buy houses in the 50-60's on the wages back then

And it's a lot harder now to buy a house for people 

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  On 5/13/2023 at 1:52 PM, Marc26 said:

"Earning a pittance" when you could buy a house for 20k

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Maybe in the US you could but in the UK your figure of 20,000 if we convert it to £s would equate in todays money of nearly half a million pounds, still quite a tidy sum would you agree. 

But you originally questioned my remark of "earning a pittance" which by todays standards was a pittance. 

The 1950s were the 'never had is so good' years. Wages were rising quickly, but living standards were well below today's.

On average people earned a lot less than they do today, even allowing for inflation.

In 1950 the average weekly wage was £5.60. In 1959 it was £8.90, an increase of nearly 60%. 

https://www.retrowow.co.uk/social_history/50s/earnings_1950s.php#:~:text=The 1950s were the 'never,today%2C even allowing for inflation.&text=Today average weekly earnings are £570.