2050 Weather in 2022; Scary climate change is happening now

[Shade_Wilder]

I just read a fascinating and scary article at CNN.com (link below) regarding the up-coming weather/heat wave in the UK/Europe.

Two years ago, Climatologists/Weather Specialists decided to project what the weather, and weather forecasts, would be like in 2050. In a scary bit of reporting, their projected forecast is coming true now.

Right now. Today.

Please note: the graphic/image is from the CNN article (link below).

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/15/weather/2050-uk-forecast-comes-true-in-2022/index.html

I also include a BBC story about the first "Red Extreme Heat Warning" (link below).

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62177458

I know that there are people out there who still don't believe that Climate Change is real, but I genuinely do not understand how or why; anyone who follows the news globally MUST notice that things are changing, be it the wild fires/drought in the Western US, the fires/floods in Australia, this 'Red Heat Warning' in the UK, etc, etc, etc.

Closer to home, as a long-term visitor and/or resident in Thailand, I have noticed changing weather patterns in the Kingdom over the years; anyone else?

Climate change is real and happening now.

Finally I add, especially for our Kiwi members, a mock (repeat: NOT REAL) projected weather forecast filmed 2 years ago about a theoretical weather forecast from 2050. It is funny in a terrifying way.

When I read stuff like this, I am happier that I am in the latter part of my life rather than the beginning stages. A child born today is going to face a MUCH worse climate and life than I ever did, and on behalf of all older people...

'Sorry about that'

[KaptainRob]

Like the UK-2050 example, NZ has already experienced similar extreme temps and drought but right now its cold with high winds, rain and flooding ... and that Auckland-2050 projection is well advanced'

Tamaki Drive storm induced flooding >

Eastern Russia, Yakutia province has been hit by floods and China perhaps the World's worst ever flood disaster is ongoing right now - the video below is only days old yet 2 weeks ago 500,000 people were evacuated in the 3 gorges region alone.

https://youtu.be/QDsY4mtXV7g

[dmacarelli]

Not man made!

We didn't cause this! 

Nothing we do could possibly effect such a large planet! 

Plastic does not kill the oceans and fish will not eat it! 

How can pumping massive amounts of junk into the atmosphere have any effect upon it? How can dumping toxic waste, shipping bilge, or garbage into the oceans possibly effect them? They are simply too large. 

It is simply a climate cycle. 

We didn't do it. We are not responsible. Stop blaming humans. 

[Mohandas]

The end is near.

Because they said so.

[Venusianhart]

  On 7/16/2022 at 2:37 AM, dmacarelli said:

Not man made!

We didn't cause this! 

Nothing we do could possibly effect such a large planet! 

Plastic does not kill the oceans and fish will not eat it! 

How can pumping massive amounts of junk into the atmosphere have any effect upon it? How can dumping toxic waste, shipping bilge, or garbage into the oceans possibly effect them? They are simply too large. 

It is simply a climate cycle. 

We didn't do it. We are not responsible. Stop blaming humans. 

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Rupert Murdoch is one of the human trash who believes and published this as actual facts to his even trashier audience at the Brexit Red Tops and Fox and Friends . At least his descendants and the foxwits wiil burn with us.

Denial is now a flooding river in Egypt.

[John_Howard]

The problem with climate change, the unrecognised problem, is that the general population is not responding to oft repeated and increasingly strident warnings.  And it is not just warnings; even the most striking examples of its impact today; the destruction of the rain forests, the melting of glaciers and ice caps, the bleaching of the great coral reef in Australia, forest fires, droughts, and floods, all these are having little impact on public opinion. But why is this happening ?  One organisation has an answer, check out "Stop Selling the Desert".

Edited July 16, 2022 by KaptainRob
Formatted for clarity

[Rookiescot]

Definitely something weird going on with the weather. Familly back home in Scotland telling me they had an entire day without rain.

[Shade_Wilder]

The heatwave continues...

Carrying on from the OP, the weather is Europe, especially in the UK/Ireland, isn't supposed to be like this until 2050, but it is occurring today.

Please, Climate Change deniers, tell me that 40+ degrees is normal for the UK and Ireland.

"UK heatwave: Country may have hottest day on record with 41C forecast"

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62201793

"Europe battles wildfires in intense heat"

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/17/weather/europe-heat-wave-wildfires-climate-change-intl/index.html

"Heat and Fires in the Mediterranean" (Daily Kos)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/7/17/2110928/-Heat-Fires-in-the-Mediterranean

"Heatwave: Northern Ireland could face highest temperature on record" (BBC)

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-62189501

"Heatwave scorches Europe as hundreds evacuated from wildfires"

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/16/heatwave-scorches-europe-as-wildfires-evacuate-hundreds

This is not normal.

Really, really not normal.

[Pinetree]

Just sent a screen shot of our weather here in LOS to my UK based kids; snap kids; fit aircon before next summer,  like Daddy advised you years ago.  Now back to watching Netflix, in a comfortable 24 degrees of aircon. 

[BigHewer]

  On 7/18/2022 at 9:50 AM, Shade_Wilder said:

Please, Climate Change deniers, tell me that 40+ degrees is normal for the UK and Ireland.

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It can’t be denied that temperatures are increasing.

The question is: Are humans causing the increase or is it just part of the natural ebb and flow of high and low temperatures in the earth’s climatic history?

[Shade_Wilder]

  On 7/18/2022 at 10:08 AM, BigHewer said:

It can’t be denied that temperatures are increasing.

The question is: Are humans causing the increase or is it just part of the natural ebb and flow of high and low temperatures in the earth’s climatic history?

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I genuinely do not know what to say to that.

This is the latest report out of the IPCC, the International Panel studying Climate Change on behalf of the governments of the world. ALL the governments of the world.

If you have a more authoritative and/or legitimate source, please share.

https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg2/

[BigHewer]

  On 7/18/2022 at 10:27 AM, Shade_Wilder said:

I genuinely do not know what to say to that.

This is the latest report out of the IPCC, the International Panel studying Climate Change on behalf of the governments of the world. ALL the governments of the world.

If you have a more authoritative and/or legitimate source, please share.

https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg2/

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I’m not arguing one way or the other, I’m just putting the question out there, Tucker Carlson style .

Up until about five years ago, I was a skeptic, but I’ve come to acknowledge that it is what it is. 

I worry about the effect of climate change action on the world economy. Others who share this view take the disingenuous approach of denying climate change outright; I’m not one of those folks. I just think the action to address the problem needs to be measured and gradual rather than drastic.

[ExpatPattaya]

  On 7/16/2022 at 1:44 AM, Shade_Wilder said:

Climate change is real and happening now.

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Been happening since the dawn of the industrial age.  Jimmy Carter addressed it in 1977.  The US had its first Earth Day in 1970.

Unfortunately, the oil economy in transport and electric power plants has only grown. 100 year old technology that the big oil and utility companies still use almost exclusively.  Diesel Oil, Natural gas, and Coal

Population doubling since the 70's has directly sped up climate change the most, yet no one dares to tell people that having children is a privilege and not their "right".   Buying a house or car?  You have to show good credit, good job history, enough income from job to make monthly payments, and a significant down payment.  Having a child that needs care and schooling for 18 years or more?  No job, education, assets, or ability to feed, clean, house, or cloth that child is necessary...let alone a simple mental health check for both parents to ensure the safety for the child

Cheap electric public transportation powered by windmills, solar, or hydro such as the Netherlands has is key

Tough decisions that should have been addressed 50+ years ago

Until we can find cheap easy power source(s) that do not emit greenhouse gases, we are all running towards our own destruction . 

Possible stop gaps are developing, CO2 recovery systems etc... hopefully will be implemented worldwide before it is too late.  Yes, science/engineering can help reverse the effects of climate change, but little or no funding or R&D so far and the hour is getting late 

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/14/1977-us-presidential-memo-predicted-climate-change

Edited July 18, 2022 by ExpatPattaya

[Shade_Wilder]

  On 7/18/2022 at 10:42 AM, BigHewer said:

’m not arguing one way or the other, I’m just putting the question out there, Tucker Carlson style .

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Tucker Carlson is a lying, pretentious wanker with no scientific training.

What possible benefit is there bringing him into the discussion?

[BigHewer]

  On 7/18/2022 at 10:48 AM, Shade_Wilder said:

Tucker Carlson is a lying, pretentious wanker with no scientific training.

What possible benefit is there bringing him into the discussion?

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Hence the wink in my post, SW. Relax. Read the rest of my post, please.

[Shade_Wilder]

  On 7/18/2022 at 10:54 AM, BigHewer said:

Hence the wink in my post, SW. Relax. Read the rest of my post, please.

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Oops, sorry; missed the wink.

Apologies.

It is just that if we as a species do bite the proverbial bullet, it'll be because of lying Tossers like Tucker Carlson who lie and cheat merely because they can.

I'd like to see us reach for the stars.

[DesperateOldHand]

  On 7/18/2022 at 10:48 AM, Shade_Wilder said:

Tucker Carlson is a lying, pretentious wanker with no scientific training.

What possible benefit is there bringing him into the discussion?

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Tucker, and his handlers, receives residual checks every time his name is mentioned or seen in print. 

[Rookiescot]

  On 7/18/2022 at 10:42 AM, BigHewer said:

I’m not arguing one way or the other, I’m just putting the question out there, Tucker Carlson style .

Up until about five years ago, I was a skeptic, but I’ve come to acknowledge that it is what it is. 

I worry about the effect of climate change action on the world economy. Others who share this view take the disingenuous approach of denying climate change outright; I’m not one of those folks. I just think the action to address the problem needs to be measured and gradual rather than drastic.

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Agree with all of this Big H but the climate change may be a culmination of BOTH natural variations and human activity. 

Action to address this could have been gradual if we had taken the warnings from scientists seriously 20 years or so ago but of course we had people (with no science background I might add) claiming it was a hoax. Where are those people now?

Ironically if somewhere like the UK was to go carbon neutral tomorrow then China and India would have taken up all that reduction in emissions within a month. 

So the west can try as hard as it wants to solve the problem if other developing countries carry on expanding as they are then we get no closer to controlling greenhouse gases.

Its going to get a LOT worse before it gets better. 

[Pinetree]

Concern about climate change is directly proportional to one's age and how many kids and grandkids one has,  I am in my later stages, just, I have 3 kids, none of whom have children. So, basically, good luck humanity. not really my problem. 

[KaptainRob]

  On 7/18/2022 at 11:06 AM, Rookiescot said:

So the west can try as hard as it wants to solve the problem if other developing countries carry on expanding as they are then we get no closer to controlling greenhouse gases.

Its going to get a LOT worse before it gets better.

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Too true RS.  Greed will see to that!

[Marc26]

  On 7/18/2022 at 11:02 AM, Shade_Wilder said:

Oops, sorry; missed the wink.

Apologies.

It is just that if we as a species do bite the proverbial bullet, it'll be because of lying Tossers like Tucker Carlson who lie and cheat merely because they can.

I'd like to see us reach for the stars.

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No it's because idiots believe him............don't allow those Fox News watching idiots off the hook

they are to blame

[Shade_Wilder]

The Climate Change event continues...

And we can expect this kind of thing to continue year after year after year. I can hardly believe it, but I actually have some sympathy for British people! 

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/150083/heatwaves-and-fires-scorch-europe-africa-and-asia (NASA)

"With Record-Breaking Heat, Europe Glimpses Its Climate Future

Heat in France, Spain, Italy and the U.K. is exacerbating drought and wildfires and threatening human health" (Scientific American)

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/with-record-breaking-heat-europe-glimpses-its-climate-future/#:~:text=Climate change has led to,according to a recent study.

"'Climate change affects everyone': Europe battles wildfires in intense heat" (Reuters)

https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/spain-portugal-battle-wildfires-heatwaves-scorch-southern-europe-2022-07-17/

I know that many people have very different feelings about Climate Change; it was noted, correctly in my view, that if you have children/grandchildren directly affects your perspective.

However, don't you want our species to continue?

[oldschooler]

  On 7/16/2022 at 8:28 AM, Rookiescot said:

Definitely something weird going on with the weather. Familly back home in Scotland telling me they had an entire day without rain.

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Gotta love that Scottish west coast … beautiful an’ all with that coastal scenic railway etc.

BUT The Rain Cold Damp ……english friends from London worked a two year oil project in Glasgow back in the day ….. four pairs of shoes each just rotted away with the street rains & general damp ….suppose NI exactly same ….never been …..

my home county surrey might be the French  Riviera by comparison ……

scotland / NI then might actually benefit from climate change by getting warmer and drier ?

[oldschooler]

  On 7/18/2022 at 11:06 AM, Rookiescot said:

Agree with all of this Big H but the climate change may be a culmination of BOTH natural variations and human activity. 

Action to address this could have been gradual if we had taken the warnings from scientists seriously 20 years or so ago but of course we had people (with no science background I might add) claiming it was a hoax. Where are those people now?

Ironically if somewhere like the UK was to go carbon neutral tomorrow then China and India would have taken up all that reduction in emissions within a month. 

So the west can try as hard as it wants to solve the problem if other developing countries carry on expanding as they are then we get no closer to controlling greenhouse gases.

Its going to get a LOT worse before it gets better. 

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That’s IT right there….. matters not a jot what West does to go Green …. at VAST unaffordable cost as China & India fossil fuel consumption will eventually doom humans & the planet …. best focus on Pollution …although C& I could care less …..Greenhouse Gases already a lost cause

[DesperateOldHand]

First World [whatever that is] instigated and problems. 

Kharmic blowback?