News Forum - Thai healthcare staff demand reduction to 100 hour working week

[Thaiger]

Thailand’s overworked healthcare professionals have petitioned the leader of the opposition party to help them get better working conditions after it was revealed most of them work about 100 hours a week. The Thai Frontline Physician Confederation yesterday handed a letter to the leader of the Move Forward Party, Pita Limjaroenrat, outlining their demands. Chutinart Chinudomporn, a female Thai doctor representative from the Thai Frontline Physician Confederation, says doctors, nurses, and other workers in the Thai healthcare service are exhausted every day because they work about 100 hours per week. This affects the health and well-being of the nation’s frontline […]

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[Fanta]

What! 100 hours a week? Even if that is a massive exaggeration and it is really 50 hours a a week it is still too many. I don’t want an exhausted medical professional taking care of my health! What a pack of clowns. 

[Morpheus]

You can't run hospitals on 12 hour shifts. Time to catch up with the rest of the world Thailand. 3 x 8h shift is the norm in developed countries.

[Vigo]

48 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

You can't run hospitals on 12 hour shifts. Time to catch up with the rest of the world Thailand. 3 x 8h shift is the norm in developed countries.

No it is not. It is not unusual to have staff work 12 hour shifts. In much of the developed world,  staff shortages mean that critical care workers are working extended hours specifically overtime because the bodies are not available to work the shifts.

[HolyCowCm]

Many doctors in CM have their own clinics they go work at after doing a shift at a hospital. Also for CM the doctors shift from hospitals they work at. Not sure how that goes but this is the way.

[Morpheus]

On 7/3/2022 at 9:58 AM, Vigo said:

No it is not. It is not unusual to have staff work 12 hour shifts. In much of the developed world,  staff shortages mean that critical care workers are working extended hours specifically overtime because the bodies are not available to work the shifts.

Yes there are shortages, however, in normal conditions 8 hrs shifts would be the norm.

[Vigo]

12 hours ago, Morpheus said:

Yes there are shortages, however, in normal conditions 8 hrs shifts would be the norm.

We have not been in normal conditions for 2 years.  Even then the norm in many hospitals was 8hrs + mandatory overtime for nursing and technical staff. Junior doctors still work 12 and 24 hour shifts especially on weekends and holidays.

[Marc26]

13 hours ago, Morpheus said:

Yes there are shortages, however, in normal conditions 8 hrs shifts would be the norm.

I don't know any nurses that work 8 hour shifts

 

They all work crazy hours

 

I have family that are nurses in US

 

I also had a private nurse that worked the nightshift in Canada coming to my house

The hospital would text her every single time to come in for OT

[Morpheus]

On 7/7/2022 at 2:04 AM, Marc26 said:

I don't know any nurses that work 8 hour shifts

They all work crazy hours

I have family that are nurses in US

I also had a private nurse that worked the nightshift in Canada coming to my house

The hospital would text her every single time to come in for OT

Above and beyond the standard shift is up to each individual, your not forced to work overtime. If you want the money then do the overtime.

[UncleFatBloke]

47 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Above and beyond the standard shift is up to each individual, your not forced to work overtime. If you want the money then do the overtime.

What universe are you living in?!

Picture the scenario: a company or hospital has much more work than they can cope with with the amount of staff available. The company is under extreme pressure to deliver, so that pressure bleeds down to the managers and of course to the staff.

Staff are constantly needed to do overtime to fill in the gaps, and if you don't do the overtime you are viewed as not helping the cause like the rest. So additional direct and indirect pressure will be placed on you to help 'the team'!

In the health industry, where for many it is a vocation rather than a job; the psychological pressure to do more to help those in need is an added stress!

[Marc26]

8 hours ago, UncleFatBloke said:

What universe are you living in?!

Picture the scenario: a company or hospital has much more work than they can cope with with the amount of staff available. The company is under extreme pressure to deliver, so that pressure bleeds down to the managers and of course to the staff.

Staff are constantly needed to do overtime to fill in the gaps, and if you don't do the overtime you are viewed as not helping the cause like the rest. So additional direct and indirect pressure will be placed on you to help 'the team'!

In the health industry, where for many it is a vocation rather than a job; the psychological pressure to do more to help those in need is an added stress!

That was my take above, very well said

[Morpheus]

On 7/11/2022 at 2:23 PM, UncleFatBloke said:

What universe are you living in?!

Picture the scenario: a company or hospital has much more work than they can cope with with the amount of staff available. The company is under extreme pressure to deliver, so that pressure bleeds down to the managers and of course to the staff.

Staff are constantly needed to do overtime to fill in the gaps, and if you don't do the overtime you are viewed as not helping the cause like the rest. So additional direct and indirect pressure will be placed on you to help 'the team'!

In the health industry, where for many it is a vocation rather than a job; the psychological pressure to do more to help those in need is an added stress!

Simple statement turns into novel.