News Forum - 12 potential cases of monkeypox found in Thailand

[Thaiger]

Twelve travellers are under watch after coming into close contact with a passenger who is suffering from monkeypox. The 12 people, a mix of passengers and flight attendants, were with the infected person for 2 hours, after the traveller’s flight from Europe stopped in a Thailand airport.  The group has been asymptomatic for the past seven days and will be observed until the final day of the incubation period, which is 21 days, according to the director of epidemiology at the Department of Disease Control, Chakkarat Pitayawonganon.  Those who came into contact with the infected are not considered high risk […]

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[Cabra]

And so marks the beginning... This is just what the government wanted so as to continue asserting tight control under the allusion of public health safety. 

[Fanta]

A dirty, pox ridden low quality farang tourist no doubt! /s 

1 possible and 11 close contacts who have all already been isolated for a week. The title is factually correct and clickbait. Well done! 

[Guest1]

53 minutes ago, Thaiger said:

The 12 people, a mix of passengers and flight attendants, were with the infected person for 2 hours, after the traveller’s flight from Europe stopped in a Thailand airport. 

Ok, and the people DURING the flight, ....?

[Poolie]

Self-explanatory.

[Chatogaster]

1 hour ago, Thaiger said:

The current monkeypox strain has a very low fatality rate (around 1%).

 

Every year, almost 1% of the population dies (anywhere, on average that is), and that's been going on for long enough that it doesn't impact society.

In light of that, calling a 1% death rate of MP "merely 1%" is silly. It suggests that something that could amount to a 100+% increase is insignificant & can easily be coped with -- it's not: if within a short time span everyone gets infected (and 1% dies) there would be a major problem. The thing is: that premise is unlikely.

Simply put, it's not just about death rate, but also the probability of getting infected and the time span involved. Everybody who makes a claim/suggestion based on less than 3 of those key aspects is naïve.

For those of you that tend to jump to conclusions without understanding the slightly deeper meaning: I don't think there's anything to worry about (right now or in the future), except the one-dimensional style of reasoning that many people stick to (which has been going on forever).

 

[TSS]

prayut emergency decree & thai pass for foreigners will continue

[Poolie]

Good,'cos I've got other things that deserve my attention.

[Cabra]

1 minute ago, TSS said:

prayut emergency decree & thai pass for foreigners will continue

As will Thailand's pain is it struggles to kickstart the hospitality industry in this country

[Cabra]

21 minutes ago, Chatogaster said:

I don't think there's anything to worry about (right now or in the future), except the one-dimensional style of reasoning that many people stick to (which has been going on forever

Certainly not from monkeypox; only from governments overreacting and media hyperbole. 

[TSS]

"Thailand's pain is it struggles to kickstart the hospitality industry in this country."

in pain for sure and still being kickstarted in the balls whilst the majority of the world's tourist destinations moves on...

[Manu]

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So far there has not been any confirmed monkeypox cases in Thailand. As of yesterday, there were 494 monkeypox patients confirmed across 32 countries, comprising 406 confirmed cases and 88 suspected cases. There are 139 confirmed cases in Spain, 101 in England, 74 in Portugal, 63 in Canada, 22 in Germany and 13 in the US.

So covid goes, replaced worldwide by this. The impression of a "deja-vu".....

[DiJoDavO]

Hahahaha, right in time to cancel the cancelation of masks! And.... Most importantly.... Right in time to extend the emergency decree!!! YAY! Who could have seen this one coming? I'm so excited for another 2 years of this bs

[DiJoDavO]

31 minutes ago, Manu said:

So covid goes, replaced worldwide by this. The impression of a "deja-vu".....

Pff you got the chance and you didn't take it.... 

Deja-flu

[Pinetree]

It looks like it may be a STI?  This quote from the BBC website.  Time to panic boys and girls.  

 

The UK Health Security Agency says anyone concerned they could be infected should phone NHS 111 or contact their local sexual health clinic, but call or email ahead of a visit.

It is also advising those infected not to have sex while they have symptoms and use condoms for eight weeks after an infection, as a precaution.

• Monkeypox cases rise as new UK sex advice issued

 

[JJJ]

If you are a tourist from Europe or USA and planning a winter holiday, I’d advise against booking a trip to Thailand.

As yet another example, the medical bureaucrats here time and time again prove they lack basic common sense and have no idea how to implement a proportionate response. If any little change to covid happens expect a ridiculous response.  Don’t waste your deposits hoping for the best here  

Look around for vacation spots that actually welcomed tourists and didn’t engage in knee jerk over reactions and took measured responses. 

[Graham]

Here we go again, scam central, only this time it's 21 days in a certified overpriced hospitel, better check the insurance policy just to see if any mention of the monkey pox cover in the fine print. 555

[Vigo]

The nonsensical accusations and false claims made suggest that some people spend far too much time promoting rumour and innuendo on social media. The Thai government has acted in a prudent and responsible manner and has followed the currently existing  infectious disease protocols, the same  procedures that are being followed elsewhere. Nothing Thailand has done is improper and on the contrary it has acted to protect a vulnerable population since a majority of Thais have no immunity against this infection.

On 5/30/2022 at 6:09 PM, Cabra said:

And so marks the beginning... This is just what the government wanted so as to continue asserting tight control under the allusion of public health safety. 

Rubbish. There is no "tight control associated with public health safety.

On 5/30/2022 at 7:41 PM, Cabra said:

Certainly not from monkeypox; only from governments overreacting and media hyperbole. 

The only over reaction and hyperbole comes from people like you posting outlandish and unsubstantiated claims. How exactly did the government over react? A small number of people are in quarantine. What would you like the Thai health authorities have done, tell them to circulate in public?

23 hours ago, DiJoDavO said:

Hahahaha, right in time to cancel the cancelation of masks! And.... Most importantly.... Right in time to extend the emergency decree!!! YAY! Who could have seen this one coming? I'm so excited for another 2 years of this bs

Oh yes, it's a big plot to bring back masks.

12 hours ago, Graham said:

Here we go again, scam central, only this time it's 21 days in a certified overpriced hospitel, better check the insurance policy just to see if any mention of the monkey pox cover in the fine print. 555

How is it a scam? 21 days is the recommended  quarantine period. It is also the  intervention period for treatment. A single dose of smallpox vaccine can be administered within four days of exposure. A second dose can follow if the risk of exposure is still present 28 days later.   

Where would you have put these people until an infection was ruled out? You do know that once identified as exposed patients these people could not travel don't you? It's the same protocol as with any other communicable infectious disease. Instead of quarantine for observation, where would you have housed these people? At your home? Would you rather the government conceal from the public that there were potentially infected people walking about? You make a catastrophe out of the government acting responsibly and protecting the  public. The severity and infection characteristics  of this outbreak have not yet been  confirmed, but based upon the quick spread in Canada and the UK, the Thai intervention was the right strategy. By quarantining a small number now, the government prevents possible wildfire spread as  has occurred  in UK and Canada.

Edited June 1, 2022 by Vigo

[Vigo]

22 hours ago, Pinetree said:

It looks like it may be a STI?  This quote from the BBC website.  Time to panic boys and girls.  

The UK Health Security Agency says anyone concerned they could be infected should phone NHS 111 or contact their local sexual health clinic, but call or email ahead of a visit.

It is also advising those infected not to have sex while they have symptoms and use condoms for eight weeks after an infection, as a precaution.

• Monkeypox cases rise as new UK sex advice issued

The same advice is given for other infections spread by bodily fluids; Examples are  Viral hemorrhagic fever infections such as ebola. The Zika virus resulted in a recommendation to refrain from pro-creation because of the brain damage zika infections caused in foetuses. It just so happened that  the initial monkeypox infections were traced to people who had attended a gay pride event in  Spain and a fetish festival in Belgium. 

[JJJ]

1 hour ago, Vigo said:

The nonsensical accusations and false claims made suggest that some people spend far too much time promoting rumour and innuendo on social media. The Thai government has acted in a prudent and responsible manner and has followed the currently existing  infectious disease protocols, the same  procedures that are being followed elsewhere. Nothing Thailand has done is improper and on the contrary it has acted to protect a vulnerable population since a majority of Thais have no immunity against this infection.

Rubbish. There is no "tight control associated with public health safety.

The only over reaction and hyperbole comes from people like you posting outlandish and unsubstantiated claims. How exactly did the government over react? A small number of people are in quarantine. What would you like the Thai health authorities have done, tell them to circulate in public?

Oh yes, it's a big plot to bring back masks.

How is it a scam? 21 days is the recommended  quarantine period. It is also the  intervention period for treatment. A single dose of smallpox vaccine can be administered within four days of exposure. A second dose can follow if the risk of exposure is still present 28 days later.   

Where would you have put these people until an infection was ruled out? You do know that once identified as exposed patients these people could not travel don't you? It's the same protocol as with any other communicable infectious disease. Instead of quarantine for observation, where would you have housed these people? At your home? Would you rather the government conceal from the public that there were potentially infected people walking about? You make a catastrophe out of the government acting responsibly and protecting the  public. The severity and infection characteristics  of this outbreak have not yet been  confirmed, but based upon the quick spread in Canada and the UK, the Thai intervention was the right strategy. By quarantining a small number now, the government prevents possible wildfire spread as  has occurred  in UK and Canada.

Most countries don’t quarantine confirmed cases or suspected cases except for Belgium, which has been criticized. And these aren’t even suspected cases! 

So yes detaining them, oh I’m sorry quarantining them, is a scam. 

[Cabra]

1 hour ago, Vigo said:

There is no "tight control

That's rich AF... Les majeste, government ruled by military junta, corrupt police, lack of freedom of press and people on social media... Political rights and civil freedoms are regularly trampled. You really need to wake up and smell some of that Belgian coffee. 

 

[Cabra]

1 hour ago, Vigo said:

The only over reaction and hyperbole comes from people like you posting outlandish and unsubstantiated claims

Please pay more attention. There was no "claim". Only a comment. That people have nothing to fear from monkeypox. And that the only fear that gets generated is from media hype; and you would be wise to beware the potential government overreach (that all governments are capable of) as a result. You are sleep walking if you can not see that

 

[Mandy]

On 5/31/2022 at 9:11 AM, DiJoDavO said:

Hahahaha, right in time to cancel the cancelation of masks! And.... Most importantly.... Right in time to extend the emergency decree!!! YAY! Who could have seen this one coming? I'm so excited for another 2 years of this bs

It'll be Just another excuse to exert power

[Chookhead]

Unless all 12 slept with the bloke they won't catch this disease that IS basically shingles as it is the same viral family, despite media hype pronouncing that it isn't. As with herpes and shingles you have to be in extremely close intimate contact for their to be any likelyhood of transmission. It is nothing like transmitting a cold or influenza. Monkeypox has been isolated since the 70's with varying numbers of cases every year, this year will be no different and likely will only exceed other years due to population increase. Happy to be proven wrong but we have statistics from 50 years behind us. 

[Thaidup]

Wuhan Institute of Virology just happened to be working on Monkeypox too.

https://thenewamerican.com/shock-wuhan-lab-experimented-on-monkeypox-just-before-outbreak/

Dr John Campbell, did a reference video on it today.