oldschooler Posted May 22, 2022 #211049 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/21/2022 at 4:21 PM, Alavan said: APEC: Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation. I guess UK not part of that Expand Hadn’t considered that ! Logical though. Just thought UK involved in everything UK must have some tiny island Pacific colonies ? No,they don’t ! wait a minute. Queen Liz is head of state NZ/ AUS/ CAN Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted May 22, 2022 #211051 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/21/2022 at 11:32 AM, anarchofarmer said: Not only Thailand - every government adopts the "me first" philosophy (so ingrained in all politicians), when they feel it's in their best interests! Expand Perceived National Interest prevails over Morality & Rules every time, everywhere….. Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benroon Posted May 22, 2022 #211052 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/21/2022 at 11:01 AM, IneptoCracy said: I personally think that it is in extremely bad taste and manners to walk out on anybody, regardless of who they are or the countries they represent. Their time is also important. Remember, Manners Maketh Man. These persons who walked out should remember too, that they are nominated Public Servants, the emphasis being on the word servant. Expand But probably poorer taste to give time to a representative of a nation currently murdering, raping, and decimating their way through a friendly neighbour right ? Does that constitute good manners ? 3 1 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted May 22, 2022 #211053 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/21/2022 at 12:18 PM, Guphz said: Proxy war? I'm sorry to have to tell you this and burst your bubble, but it was Russia that started the war by invading Ukraine. There is no proxy war, but rather overwhelming support for Ukraine from the international community. Expand And importantly, massive physical & political support from key NATO nations. Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted May 22, 2022 #211057 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/21/2022 at 2:07 PM, DiJoDavO said: Which regime are we talking about? Expand might it be the invading nationalistic fascist aggressor perhaps? Just wild speculation on my part though 2 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulw Posted May 22, 2022 #211064 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) On 5/21/2022 at 9:15 AM, oldschooler said: UK Not Even Present then. Nor should those allied walkout countries have been there. Expand APEC is Asia Pacific Economic Forum which means Asian & Pacific rim countries only !!!! Edited May 22, 2022 by Paulw 1 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted May 22, 2022 #211067 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) EDIT: oops.. this post confused Pacific rim with Asian countries. Nothing to see here, move along…. Edited May 22, 2022 by Fanta Me make boo boo Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IneptoCracy Posted May 22, 2022 #211082 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Strange how my comment never brought up the "war". I only said it is rude to walkout of the room while somebody is giving a speech. Why cant people just not show common courtesy to listen to somebody else, even if they say something you don't like? Maybe that's why there are wars because of Thai style "misunderstandings". This walk out protest is like little kids in a playschool trying to assert their I am better than you mentality. Not taking any sides in this invasion, war, plundering, claiming territory or crimes. Only asking about manners. 1 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted May 22, 2022 #211084 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 3:54 AM, IneptoCracy said: Strange how my comment never brought up the "war". I only said it is rude to walkout of the room while somebody is giving a speech. Why cant people just not show common courtesy to listen to somebody else, even if they say something you don't like? Maybe that's why there are wars because of Thai style "misunderstandings". This walk out protest is like little kids in a playschool trying to assert their I am better than you mentality. Not taking any sides in this invasion, war, plundering, claiming territory or crimes. Only asking about manners. Expand It has nothing to do with manners,it has to do with making a point. The people who walked out showed they will not deal with people whose government started a war just for some ones ego. Bad manners would have been if they used foul language or aggression. Well done i say. Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benroon Posted May 22, 2022 #211088 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/21/2022 at 11:05 AM, Poolie said: Rouble has strengthened to under 60 against the dollar today. That's what I mean by 'working.' Russia is laughing all the way to the bank. Expand Right now and the foreseeable future no better than Monopoly money. Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benroon Posted May 22, 2022 #211090 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 3:54 AM, IneptoCracy said: Strange how my comment never brought up the "war". I only said it is rude to walkout of the room while somebody is giving a speech. Why cant people just not show common courtesy to listen to somebody else, even if they say something you don't like? Maybe that's why there are wars because of Thai style "misunderstandings". This walk out protest is like little kids in a playschool trying to assert their I am better than you mentality. Not taking any sides in this invasion, war, plundering, claiming territory or crimes. Only asking about manners. Expand You seriously cannot see the bigger picture ? It is because he is a representative of execution, rape and the invasion of a friendly democracy. Again is that good manners ? Unless of course he opened his speech with a condemnation ? Did he ? I’m fascinated why you’re ‘ not taking sides’ in one corner you have a friendly democratic country going about their business and in the other you have a war mongering maniac whose troops are carrying out atrocities bordering on genocide - what’s giving you problems choosing ? 1 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanta Posted May 22, 2022 #211100 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 4:02 AM, birdman said: The people who walked out showed they will not deal with people whose government started a war just for some ones ego Expand It is indeed sending a message to the people of the world but to claim the world will not deal with Russia, directly or indirectly, is naive. The world needs Russian oil, gas, wheat etc so the world must deal with Russia and also put money into Russia’s pocket. We may not like it but it is what it is. That is why I called it virtue signaling because at the end of the day the deals will still have to be made, albeit preferably behind closed doors away from the media spotlight. This walkout achieves nothing apart from good press from the West. 2 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlad Posted May 22, 2022 #211103 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Prayut remarked Stronger countries should focus more on Humanitarian efforts. Maybe he should have asked the Russian delegate at the conference why his country will cause food shortages because they are blockading ports and not allowing wheat and Seeds to be Exported. 1 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poolie Posted May 22, 2022 #211105 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 4:10 AM, Benroon said: Right now and the foreseeable future no better than Monopoly money. Expand No doubt we'll see. Dropped to 57.90/USD this morning. 1 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IneptoCracy Posted May 22, 2022 #211109 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Benroon, whats giving me problems choosing, is that I have Russian friends, Ukrainian friends and active Thai military friends fighting over in the Ukraine, some as medics, some as fighters on the front lines and others in the capacity of delivering aid. War is not about having a quick bottle of vodka and being buddies after the bottle is empty. There is so much more going on behind the scenes that the average person does not know nor is it common knowledge. This will not be reported in the main propaganda news either. But alas I cannot argue with people who obviously know far more intel and information than me. I still say the walkouts are no sharper than a blunt pencil, controlled by the Deep State from the Americans. 2 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted May 22, 2022 #211158 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 3:54 AM, IneptoCracy said: Strange how my comment never brought up the "war". I only said it is rude to walkout of the room while somebody is giving a speech. Why cant people just not show common courtesy to listen to somebody else, even if they say something you don't like? Maybe that's why there are wars because of Thai style "misunderstandings". This walk out protest is like little kids in a playschool trying to assert their I am better than you mentality. Not taking any sides in this invasion, war, plundering, claiming territory or crimes. Only asking about manners. Expand staying in the same room with enemy representatives of fascist murderers when they speak is legitimizing their crimes. Well- mannered walkout well justified. 2 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted May 22, 2022 #211162 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 5:05 AM, IneptoCracy said: Benroon, whats giving me problems choosing, is that I have Russian friends, Ukrainian friends and active Thai military friends fighting over in the Ukraine, some as medics, some as fighters on the front lines and others in the capacity of delivering aid. War is not about having a quick bottle of vodka and being buddies after the bottle is empty. There is so much more going on behind the scenes that the average person does not know nor is it common knowledge. This will not be reported in the main propaganda news either. But alas I cannot argue with people who obviously know far more intel and information than me. I still say the walkouts are no sharper than a blunt pencil, controlled by the Deep State from the Americans. Expand So despite having sufficient information not to be neutral you are neutral as you “don’t know everything going on”. Lay off the magic mushrooms ? Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted May 22, 2022 #211253 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Everyone has a choice and is free to make their own decision. I’m glad America and the other countries that are financially helping the Ukrainian people had a backbone and walked out. We Americans don’t permission to get up and walk out of any meeting…..it’s only rude to those that oppose freedom of choice!!! Thank You Marvin Yeager 2 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poolie Posted May 22, 2022 #211283 Share Posted May 22, 2022 Yeah ok, just dont expect to get invited again. 2 2 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigo Posted May 22, 2022 #211299 Share Posted May 22, 2022 (edited) On 5/21/2022 at 6:13 PM, DiJoDavO said: Lol, it's funny that if I didn't say this, anyone would call Somalia some shitty place with leaders you can't trust, and shit like that. Now they asked the US to help them and it's suddenly a legitimate government. I guess you missed the bs going on there in the past year. Doesn't sound very stable to me. Btw, those leaders requesting USA to come in and do drone strikes etc don't live in the area where they do the actual drone strikes. I bet if you ask random Somali people, they would have a bit of a different opinion on this, because they are now at risk of being bombed to pieces. Expand It is a legitimate government because the elections were were free and considered fair by disinterested international observers. I remind you that the UN was present and observing the election. There were 43 voting rounds and a total of 38 presidential candidates. The election result was notable for its peaceful transition with the previous president both accepting the result and offering his tacit support. The population has accepted the election result. You have no basis with which to question the election. Somalia is fighting a foreign backed terrorist insurrection led by Al Quaidah affiliated El Shebab. The Somali government is acting to protect its population from jihadists who wish to bring a Taliban like state to Somalia. Why are you protesting the Somali governments legitimacy and legal right to defend itself, and why do you support the El Shebab jihadi attacks? The USA is in Somalia at the invitation of Somalia to help it protect itself from a foreign invader. Russia has no legitimate place at APEC since it no longer supports the principles of APEC which include support of the WTO. Why don't you address that fact first instead of going off on a tangent about Somalia. Edited May 22, 2022 by Vigo Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigo Posted May 22, 2022 #211302 Share Posted May 22, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 5:05 AM, IneptoCracy said: Benroon, whats giving me problems choosing, is that I have Russian friends, Ukrainian friends and active Thai military friends fighting over in the Ukraine, some as medics, some as fighters on the front lines and others in the capacity of delivering aid. War is not about having a quick bottle of vodka and being buddies after the bottle is empty. There is so much more going on behind the scenes that the average person does not know nor is it common knowledge. This will not be reported in the main propaganda news either. But alas I cannot argue with people who obviously know far more intel and information than me. I still say the walkouts are no sharper than a blunt pencil, controlled by the Deep State from the Americans. Expand Oh yes, the "deep state conspiracy". Always a secret plan put together by sinsiter members of the imaginary deep state. 1 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alavan Posted May 23, 2022 #211668 Share Posted May 23, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 1:55 AM, oldschooler said: Hadn’t considered that ! Logical though. Just thought UK involved in everything UK must have some tiny island Pacific colonies ? No,they don’t ! wait a minute. Queen Liz is head of state NZ/ AUS/ CAN Expand Yes, she is head of State, but they have a gouvernment of their own which is there, not the UK gouvernment. Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted May 23, 2022 #211674 Share Posted May 23, 2022 On 5/23/2022 at 3:49 PM, Alavan said: Yes, she is head of State, but they have a gouvernment of their own which is there, not the UK gouvernment. Expand UK should still be an APEC member though, to keep an eye on things., and ideally ASEAN, as former colonial ruler in these regions. UK highly experienced in these matters and could still send a gunboat to make matters clear if disrespected or disobeyed. 1 Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-211674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
friendofthai Posted June 3, 2022 #216631 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) The Western states had no reason to blame Russia's economic development minister in Bangkok. They better look for those responsible for economic problems in the mirror: "This is an unprecedented work of the printing press. The total money supply increased by 38.6%. Apparently, the financial authorities proceeded from the fact that the dollar is the world currency and, as usual, it will dissipate throughout the world economy and will be imperceptible. It turned out that this was not the case. The finance minister recently said they made a mistake. So this mistake of the US financial authorities has nothing to do with Russia's actions in Ukraine." - Vladimir Putin Edited June 3, 2022 by friendofthai Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-216631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted June 12, 2022 #220045 Share Posted June 12, 2022 On 5/22/2022 at 3:33 PM, Poolie said: Yeah ok, just dont expect to get invited again. Expand I can’t speak for my government but I’m pretty sure will not want to sit at that table until there is a clear understanding of resolve to this issue. Quote Link to comment https://talk.thethaiger.com/topic/14422-news-forum-5-countries%E2%80%99-representatives-walk-out-when-russian-official-speaks-in-bangkok/page/3/#findComment-220045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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