News Forum - China warns Thailand to fix durian Covid-19 problem or face export ban

[Thaiger]

Officials at the Mohan border checkpoint in China have given Thailand 5 days to fix the issue of Covid-19 traces being found on exported durian. According to a Nation Thailand report, Chinese officials have threatened to slap an export ban on Thai durian if the problem is not resolved. Sanchai Puranachaikiri from the Thai Fresh Fruit Traders and Exporters Association says the warning came in a letter from border officials in China. According to the letter, officials at the Mohan border detected traces of Covid-19 on durian coming in from Thailand. It’s understood this has happened on multiple occasions during […]

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[Vigo]

How do trace amounts of the virus on durian cause infection? How is this even a public health risk? China is obsessing over a negligible risk for reasons I do not understand.  The research says that the risk of exposure is 1/10,000 for general objects and that the virus is 99% weakened after 72 hours.   Here's an example of a summary of evidence      https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-research/surface-transmission.html#:~:text=Findings of these studies suggest,infection 7%2C 8%2C 9.

For comparison sake, I looked up the exposure risk for other infectious viruses common to the produce China exports. Celery, and carrots had viable virus after 8 days, and for radishes, carrots and lettuce it was  30 days.  Why then the emphasis on durian when other produce offers a greater risk for chronic illnesses like hepatitis.  Is this China bullying because of cancelled submarine contract?

[Poolie]

49 minutes ago, Vigo said:

How do trace amounts of the virus on durian cause infection? How is this even a public health risk? China is obsessing over a negligible risk for reasons I do not understand.  The research says that the risk of exposure is 1/10,000 for general objects and that the virus is 99% weakened after 72 hours.   Here's an example of a summary of evidence      https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-research/surface-transmission.html#:~:text=Findings of these studies suggest,infection 7%2C 8%2C 9.

For comparison sake, I looked up the exposure risk for other infectious viruses common to the produce China exports. Celery, and carrots had viable virus after 8 days, and for radishes, carrots and lettuce it was  30 days.  Why then the emphasis on durian when other produce offers a greater risk for chronic illnesses like hepatitis.  Is this China bullying because of cancelled submarine contract?

No. They just dont want the covid risk. Thats it, no need to see ghosts in the machine. I'm sure they've taken advice from the American CDC.  After all, they've got an immaculate record with covid.

[Ramanathan.P]

I smell fishy.....could be TIT for TAT.

[Poolie]

Just now, Ramanathan.P said:

I smell fishy.....could be TIT for TAT.

Oh dear......................how unfortunate.

The price of deodorant is prohibitive.

[Shade_Wilder]

This is all self-inflicted.

Thailand's military launches a coup and the civilized world condemns it.

Thailand's military turns to China for support, thinking "How could this go wrong?".

Fast-forward to present day...

China's Border Officials (note, not even the Central Government, but 'Border Officials') threaten Thailand's economic livelihood, simply because they can.

Thailand Jumps and in mid-flight asks "how high, Sir?"

Who could have seen this coming...

[Morpheus]

The CCP is trying to make China zero free cases. Dreaming, while their economy is going down the drain.

[Morpheus]

40 minutes ago, Shade_Wilder said:

This is all self-inflicted.

Thailand's military launches a coup and the civilized world condemns it.

Thailand's military turns to China for support, thinking "How could this go wrong?".

Fast-forward to present day...

China's Border Officials (note, not even the Central Government, but 'Border Officials') threaten Thailand's economic livelihood, simply because they can.

Thailand Jumps and in mid-flight asks "how high, Sir?"

Who could have seen this coming...

Unfortunately, Thailand has no backbone when it comes to China.

[Poolie]

21 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

The CCP is trying to make China zero free cases. Dreaming, while their economy is going down the drain.

What still? The Chinese economy has been going to the wall for years, it's just that no-one told them!

[palooka]

Lets have a new conspiracy.

Maybe Durian infected with covid is the most contagious combination to Chinese people.

[HolyCowCm]

1 hour ago, Ramanathan.P said:

I smell fishy.....could be TIT for TAT.

Is that like saying they can sure export dish it out, but oh nooooooooo call foul on taking it back.

[Rookiescot]

How dare you export our own virus back to us!

[Rookiescot]

2 hours ago, Shade_Wilder said:

This is all self-inflicted.

Thailand's military launches a coup and the civilized world condemns it.

Thailand's military turns to China for support, thinking "How could this go wrong?".

Fast-forward to present day...

China's Border Officials (note, not even the Central Government, but 'Border Officials') threaten Thailand's economic livelihood, simply because they can.

Thailand Jumps and in mid-flight asks "how high, Sir?"

Who could have seen this coming...

Chinese parking attendant tells Thailand "You can't leave that there".

[HiuMak]

Thailand will queue up all the durians to do PCR tests

[Fanta]

17 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

How dare you export our own virus back to us!

How dare you ship contaminated product is more like it. Thailand has previously been warned about this. Taiwan banned Thai pork imports but there was no outcry about that. Thai exporters and custom controls can either lift their game or go sit on the bench and cry foul.

[EdwardV]

19 hours ago, Poolie said:

No. They just dont want the covid risk.

No. They just want someone else to blame.

[Tim_Melb]

1 hour ago, EdwardV said:

No. They just want someone else to blame.

Exactly right this has nothing to do with Thailand, the CCP does not give a rats proverbial about Thailand or durian. It's all about maintaining the propaganda that all covid cases in China come from foreign sources. It can be put in the same file as the rubbish about mail and packages from overseas of course when it was the possibility of the virus being exported from China on and in the millions of items sent overseas from China they said that was impossible... 

[Poolie]

Selective memory there.........................

[AdvocatusDiaboli]

2 hours ago, Tim_Melb said:

Exactly right this has nothing to do with Thailand, the CCP does not give a rats proverbial about Thailand or durian.

But the CCP wants to save face over a Chinese company soon to lose the Thai submarine contract as the German Engines have COVID19 on them (so they are not allowed in China) yes it does sound political Tit for Tat.