News Forum - UKRAINE UPDATES

[BigHewer]

21 minutes ago, oldschooler said:

Finland & Sweden ( and perhaps Austria & Ireland ?) certainly to join NATO now.

Ukraine to remain a buffer state bleeding to death the Russian military & economy. 

Amazing to consider in hindsight. I remember in high school in Germany in the early 90s, we did a module on EU and NATO expansion. The teacher (Herr Rumpenhorst, I doubt he is reading this forum) correctly predicted that the three Baltic states would join NATO within 10 or so years. He also said that Finland (as well as all the former Soviet republics - Ukraine included) would never be invited to join because it would provoke a reaction.

There are people of my age across Europe with their heads spinning right now*

*except the ones who weren’t paying attention in class.

[KRLMRX]

18 hours ago, HolyCowCm said:

That is good to hear that you and him do not follow the same ideals or paths. 

OK, here is an oddball question and I hope no one takes offense to it. If you were in his admin and had a time or the time to make, to be able to make him go bye bye, would you? Gun, poison, etc. I think he is off his rocker now and his war delusions to become a name like Czar are fully overboard-again delusional. I used to like him, but no way in heck now evn if he did give me a million of his chump change that he pilfered.

I suppose you have already understood that I am a supporter of the idea that history is not made by Putin Biden Johnson and Xi, history is made by classes.  

 

In English, I did not find such a high-quality video, so watch with subtitles until it is deleted (and I apologize for breaking the rules)

I would not kill Putin, because it is pointless, Butin, Maiden and Qi will come in his place and everything will repeat itself.  

First of all, you need to kill Putin in yourself and realize that you are being used like a battery and start resisting.

[KRLMRX]

17 hours ago, PBS said:

In my opinion you should be banned from this forum for never ending whataboutism and excuses for the Russian war on Ukraine, unfortunately due to the culture of 'free speech' (which as you know is not permitted in your country of residence; Russia) - you are allowed to continue However, given you claim Putin " is not my guy. he hates people like me, and it's mutual" why do you continue with your pro Russia propaganda - how do you  justify the unwarranted murderous Russian occupation and invasion of Ukraine which commenced in 2014?

if you show me where I justify the war, I will ban myself.

[KRLMRX]

17 hours ago, PBS said:

Some Russian forces in Ukraine affiliated with the Far Right, including a US listed group identified as terrorist -  "Russian Imperial Movement".

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/20/russian-mercenaries-in-ukraine-linked-to-far-right-extremists

I am ready to agree that Wagner PMCs are neo-Nazis, although there is no evidence of this in your link, but this is a private company (you love private property?).

And the Azov battalion is part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, that is, a state structure and it has its own coat of arms - the Wolf Hook, the emblem of the Waffen SS units.

[Alavan]

14 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

if you show me where I justify the war, I will ban myself.

I may not agree with you on the Russia-Ukraine conflict, but you have as much right as me or everybody else to expres your point of view.

[KRLMRX]

1 hour ago, Alavan said:

I may not agree with you on the Russia-Ukraine conflict, but you have as much right as me or everybody else to expres your point of view.

thank you, you are a real democrat, unlike some commentators here.

the current conflict is no different from similar conflicts of the past - it is just an episode of the ongoing war for influence, markets and the minds of the townsfolk. Unfortunately.

[1l1]

19 hours ago, PBS said:

n my opinion you should be banned from this forum [...] unfortunately due to the culture of 'free speech' [...] - you are allowed to continue

Such a disappointment! If it were up to you, you'd shut everyone with a different opinion up. You'd even send em to prison. What nonsense to have a different opinion! Damn freedom of speech! Bloody liberals.

No need to hide anymore, tovarish!  Dust off your precious red passport and take a first ticket back home. The Motherland needs you! 

19 hours ago, PBS said:

Some Russian forces in Ukraine affiliated with the Far Right, including a US listed group identified as terrorist -  "Russian Imperial Movement".

They are known nazi scums.. funny they are fighting on the same side with another nationalists - chechens. 

[PBS]

4 hours ago, 1l1 said:

Such a disappointment! If it were up to you, you'd shut everyone with a different opinion up. You'd even send em to prison. What nonsense to have a different opinion! Damn freedom of speech! Bloody liberals.

No need to hide anymore, tovarish!  Dust off your precious red passport and take a first ticket back home. The Motherland needs you! 

They are known nazi scums.. funny they are fighting on the same side with another nationalists - chechens. 

It is not a matter of "difference of opinion", we have members openly supporting Russia's unwarranted act of war by its cruel invasion of Ukraine - in war time one does not enable the enemies propaganda.

Edited March 21, 2022 by PBS

[PBS]

6 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

I am ready to agree that Wagner PMCs are neo-Nazis, although there is no evidence of this in your link, but this is a private company (you love private property?).

And the Azov battalion is part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, that is, a state structure and it has its own coat of arms - the Wolf Hook, the emblem of the Waffen SS units.

Wagner is supported by the Russian State. It has been reported Wagner has committed war crimes in its area of operations. e.g.

https://euobserver.com/world/153643

Azov has a known background with some of its people aligned to neo Nazism Watching a Ukarnian MP this morning she claimed Azov were useful during the original Dombas conflict fighting Russian supported seperatists as at the time Ukraian government forces were not effective. Ukraine has a number of far right political parties, the MP stated not one of whom have gained political; representation in Ukraine government which puts the reality of far right acceptance in Ukraine society into the realm of pragmatic reality, thereby undermining Putin's false claims for justification of war.

[PBS]

6 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

if you show me where I justify the war, I will ban myself.

Just to confirm, you oppose the Russian invasion of Ukraine?

[Fester]

18 hours ago, Shark said:

murderous tactics as how you name them you mean those where thousands of Ukrainians and Russians are still living like nothing happened. US did so much better in Afghanistan and Iraq right?

I'm not stating this is justified, but for a lot of people in both countries this isn't the 'end of the world' as it doesn't impact them.

I today was even talking with an American and he stated I don't know what to believe my Ukrainian friends told me it was just business as usual and they where still living their lives as before. So propoganda much? 

Stuff has been bombed and those whom want to flee now have the ultimate reason todo so. But people where bombs dropped just 50km away they decide to stay since this are their houses. I mean it's a strange world we live in.

What the end of this all will be I have no clue. There are no winners on any side, it's weird that the Ukrainians here on an Island in Thailand decide to wear Ukraine flags on their cars and express themselves by looking at me full of hate.... though shit I'm not Russian nor bothered by them doing it. My wife is and she however hates the behavior they're showing as Russians and Ukrainians have been allies for years - one crazy person doesn't make the whole nation crazy.

This whole bullshit based on citizenship or visual appears (I appear Russian it seems?) is just plain stupid and those whom where already here where already here as tourist (both sides) so why judge people whom are here anyways.

If there was a point in there somewhere, I'm afraid I missed it. 

[Shark]

27 minutes ago, Fester said:

If there was a point in there somewhere, I'm afraid I missed it. 

there was more then one try again.

[Stardust]

18 hours ago, Shark said:

murderous tactics as how you name them you mean those where thousands of Ukrainians and Russians are still living like nothing happened. US did so much better in Afghanistan and Iraq right?

I'm not stating this is justified, but for a lot of people in both countries this isn't the 'end of the world' as it doesn't impact them.

I today was even talking with an American and he stated I don't know what to believe my Ukrainian friends told me it was just business as usual and they where still living their lives as before. So propoganda much? 

Stuff has been bombed and those whom want to flee now have the ultimate reason todo so. But people where bombs dropped just 50km away they decide to stay since this are their houses. I mean it's a strange world we live in.

What the end of this all will be I have no clue. There are no winners on any side, it's weird that the Ukrainians here on an Island in Thailand decide to wear Ukraine flags on their cars and express themselves by looking at me full of hate.... though shit I'm not Russian nor bothered by them doing it. My wife is and she however hates the behavior they're showing as Russians and Ukrainians have been allies for years - one crazy person doesn't make the whole nation crazy.

This whole bullshit based on citizenship or visual appears (I appear Russian it seems?) is just plain stupid and those whom where already here where already here as tourist (both sides) so why judge people whom are here anyways.

Nobody else than Russia/Putin bombed civilians, cities and towns in the history after the WW2 thats a fact (Aleppo, Grosny, etc etc). You are spreading misinformation and no facts and just left out the chemical weapons and massmurdering civillians like Putin did in Syria. Misinformation campagnes like we see from Russia!

[Noble_Design]

2 minutes ago, Stardust said:

Nobody else than Russia/Putin bombed civilians, cities and towns in the history after the WW2 thats a fact 

 Thanks for the  today

[Shark]

5 minutes ago, Stardust said:

Nobody else than Russia/Putin bombed civilians, cities and towns in the history after the WW2 thats a fact (Aleppo, Grosny, etc etc). You are spreading misinformation and no facts and just left out the chemical weapons and massmurdering civillians like Putin did in Syria. Misinformation campagnes like we see from Russia!

I'm not spreading misinformation. I'm stating facts. This is where it goes wrong for most of the people.
I've said already that i don't condone this war not in the slightest.

If you now state that only Russia has been misinforming please read back as the west seems to be very good at doing the same even Meta acknowledged it didn't filter any of the misinformation caused by the American propoganda machine and Ukrainians as it both fits the message to be send to the world: "Russia is dangerous" this is the truth, I'm not even going to deny it... but it's not Russians whom are dangerous it's a single person whom unluckily for the world is at the stage where he can order others todo that what he wants and if you don't oblige you just disappear... just like protesting in Russia. 

[Stardust]

2 minutes ago, Noble_Design said:

 Thanks for the  today

So you deny that Aleppo and Grosny for example was bombed to the ground? Then it should be for everybody clearly now what is your profile.

[Shark]

11 minutes ago, Stardust said:

Nobody else than Russia/Putin bombed civilians, cities and towns in the history after the WW2

you might want to check your history facts about Afghanistan and Iraq straight. Just stating... so pro Murica.

Took too much Stardust @Stardust?

[Marble-eye]

1 minute ago, Shark said:

you might want to check your history facts about Afghanistan and Iraq straight. Just stating... so pro Murica.

Took too much Stardust @Stardust?

Maybe you want to check the topic title "UKRAINE UPDATES"

 

 

[Stardust]

Just now, Shark said:

I'm not spreading misinformation. I'm stating facts. This is where it goes wrong for most of the people.
I've said already that i don't condone this war not in the slightest.

If you now state that only Russia has been misinforming please read back as the west seems to be very good at doing the same even Meta acknowledged it didn't filter any of the misinformation caused by the American propoganda machine and Ukrainians as it both fits the message to be send to the world: "Russia is dangerous" this is the truth, I'm not even going to deny it... but it's not Russians whom are dangerous it's a single person whom unluckily for the world is at the stage where he can order others todo that what he wants and if you don't oblige you just disappear... just like protesting in Russia. 

It is a fact that Aleppo or Grosny was bombed to the ground. And is fact the war crimes the Russian Army did! And the warcrimes now are Russians in the Russian Army and a majority stands behind it. Nowaday with the internet nobody in Russia we don't know Russians are killing children and looting. Everday they are documenting how they bomb, shoot on civilians. They even shooting on refugees they try to go out on corridors that were negotiated as corridors for the refugees. Russian are responsible for that and thats a fact and no doubt about it and documentated on a daily bases!

[Shark]

Just now, Marble-eye said:

Maybe you want to check the topic title "UKRAINE UPDATES"

yes and this starts by spreading Ukraine updates not misinformation and not only the pro Murica message.
I speak with Ukrainians & Russians and get updates from within both countries.

[Stardust]

4 minutes ago, Shark said:

you might want to check your history facts about Afghanistan and Iraq straight. Just stating... so pro Murica.

Took too much Stardust @Stardust?

Now spreading again fake infos! There was nothing that you can compare to Aleppo or Grosny you sgould check your facts! And if you say it was the same then you spreading misinformations and not know what facts are!

[Shark]

2 minutes ago, Stardust said:

And the warcrimes now are Russians in the Russian Army and a majority stands behind it.

by all means please identify this 'majority' you talk about as neither of them are in Russia or Ukraine.

[Stardust]

1 minute ago, Shark said:

yes and this starts by spreading Ukraine updates not misinformation and not only the pro Murica message.
I speak with Ukrainians & Russians and get updates from within both countries.

You really forget that in eastern european countries they understand Russian . It us obvious that you not understand Russian because nobody would agree what you are spreading on misinformation about Russia! You even forget that all was ocupied before by the sovidt union til east Germany. They grow up with the Russian it is a joke and nonsense to explain anybody in Europe Russia or Russians! Absurd!

[Marble-eye]

Just now, Shark said:

yes and this starts by spreading Ukraine updates not misinformation and not only the pro Murica message.
I speak with Ukrainians & Russians and get updates from within both countries.

I speak with Ukrainians & Russians and get updates from within both countries.

I'm afraid we have only your word for that, and just lately I wouldn't believe a Russian on here if he told me it was raining, I would have to go look outside.

The amount of bilge and lack of empathy coming from some posters on here who are supporting the Russian terrorists is not only unbelievable but it damn right disgusting.

[Stardust]

18 minutes ago, Shark said:

by all means please identify this 'majority' you talk about as neither of them are in Russia or Ukraine.

You still not understand that all of this neigbouring countries or former occupied countries understand Russian language and are very well informed whats going on in Russia. To understand that you have to read the daily news in Europe in all countries where they interview Russians or read the social media. They talk about 70% of the Russians back the war and invasion of the Ukraine.