News Forum - UKRAINE UPDATES

[Stardust]

6 minutes ago, Stardust said:

Wrong kiev is the old german writing and liwiw was before called Lemberg. Exactly opposite the soviet union changed their old names and not any western! 

It was together with Habsburg. In the times of the kingdoms in Europe.

[KRLMRX]

2 hours ago, Faz said:

'Google' is your friend.

https://time.com/6156357/russia-airstrike-ukraine-hospital/

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/02/25/ukraine-russian-cluster-munition-hits-hospital

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31129484

but it doesn't seem to be yours.  BBC from 2015. in other sources, the same one living woman without shrapnel wounds.

[KRLMRX]

2 hours ago, oldschooler said:

They don’t. Russians in Ukrainian uniforms filmed by Russian propaganda units , no doubt …..advanced civilized nations have nothing to learn from Islamic hellholes living in year 650 AD. 
 

Ukrainian soldiers were set up, I understand. happens. Are you calling Malaysians Islamic hellholes?

[Alavan]

1 hour ago, KRLMRX said:

yes, in fact it is a neo-Nazi sect, which in 2014 was given weapons for the war with the Russians.

there are supporters in different cities of Ukraine. as far as I can see from the news, the main forces of the sect are in Mariupol and Kharkov.

OK. So that extreme right (I hate them, respecting my family'q history of the last 85 years) battalion of maximum 1000 "soldiers" is in Marioepol and Khakov. What is the distance between both cities so that one battalion can be at both places at the same time?.

And what about destructions in other towns like Kiev etc... also the same neo nazis?
are they omnipresent.

The problem is Russian actions make them acceptable, which I also hate.

[Stardust]

19 minutes ago, 1l1 said:

I haven't watched it for decades because of propaganda. 

Do I? Where? When? Quote me!

Liberate me!  I'll even set a tomahawk beacon on the Kremlin if it helps.

Heavens above, that's a bit far fetched.

The Russians blew up the theatre trapping hundreds of civilians inside to blame it on the Ukranians.

I don't see a difference in these two statements.

Oh wait... I see one! 

Mariupol' is in Donestk historic borders and it's majority of population (like 90%) is russian native. 

So the Russians airbombed russian civilians to liberate the russians and the russian-speaking-city... YEAH, SEEMS TRUTHWORTHY!  

You really know not anything about the history of the Ukraine. And yes the so called russian speaking Ukrainians went to the streets against the russian agressors the net is full of it!

 

 

[Alavan]

32 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

for more than 1000 years it was Kiev. Kyiv, it became the last 8 years, when the "pro-Western" fighters against Russia came to power

lutetia, part of Imperium Romanum is now Paris, and isn't a Latin/Italian town any more.
A lot of cities changed name, Kinshasha, Djakarta, Mumbay, Stalingrad, even Saigon. That is part of history. Like it or not, but it is just the name. Citizens are important.

[oldschooler]

3 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

well, follow the law.

in other countries, you can go to jail for saying a bad word about royalty, for example. And one unfortunate 12 years can not wait for the trial for publishing information about the crimes of those in power.

"Law is the will of the ruling class elevated to law"

“Royalty” comment applies only to uncivilized countries. you allude to Assange & Snowden where “national security” used wrongly and unsuccessfully  to cover western govt. crimes against their people, …..in attempting to protect those people by defeating evil regimes,they went too far in denying freedoms & rights. all this will be revealed in inevitable open & impartial western court cases.

quite different to Russia where the entire “ govt” works only to serve 100 thieving oligarchs at full expense of the people who are considered worthless slaves to be prosecuted & neutralized if one word of dissent. 

[oldschooler]

39 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

Ukrainian soldiers were set up, I understand. happens. Are you calling Malaysians Islamic hellholes?

You appear to “ understand” almost nothing, living in your Putin alternate “reality”. 

[EdwardV]

1 hour ago, KRLMRX said:

fortunately, we see no evidence for this.

there is destruction in the places of combat clashes of the parties, which are often located in civilian buildings, and who exactly fired the projectile - there are at least 2 versions.

One version you have to suspend reality, the other not so much. But if it lets you sleep at night, go for it. 

[Guest1]

1 hour ago, Stardust said:

Wrong kiev is the old german writing and liwiw was before called Lemberg. Exactly opposite the soviet union changed their old names and not any western! 

Really? So why was it on every Airport with connections to Kiev in the world to spot, before? (And isn't Kiev in german "Kiew" ? Like it was in "archaic" English language, perhaps?)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KyivNotKiev

[Stardust]

1 minute ago, Guest1 said:

Really? So why was it on every Airport with connections to Kiev in the world to spot, before? (And isn't Kiev in german "Kiew" ? Like it was in "archaic" English language, perhaps?)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KyivNotKiev

It was from Habsburg not from Germany. But they had the old german as language. Today they write it Kiew but not in the time of Habsburg. Lemberg became Liviv when the soviet union invaded Ukraine.

History of the Ukraine

[KRLMRX]

1 hour ago, Stardust said:

Wrong kiev is the old german writing and liwiw was before called Lemberg. Exactly opposite the soviet union changed their old names and not any western! 

historical science knows nothing about the German name of Kyiv.  

The Laurentian Chronicle is the first dated ancient Russian chronicle, where the name Kiev is written.  This is 12-13 century.  

and, if you know the Cyrillic alphabet, then the pronunciation of Kiev is obvious to you.  

Latin writers may have pronounced and written differently, but the ancient Russian founders and inhabitants of Kyiv for the next 1000 years called and pronounced Kiev.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurentian_Codex

 

[Stardust]

7 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

historical science knows nothing about the German name of Kyiv.  

The Laurentian Chronicle is the first dated ancient Russian chronicle, where the name Kiev is written.  This is 12-13 century.  

and, if you know the Cyrillic alphabet, then the pronunciation of Kiev is obvious to you.  

Latin writers may have pronounced and written differently, but the ancient Russian founders and inhabitants of Kyiv for the next 1000 years called and pronounced Kiev.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurentian_Codex

Sure Putin will teach never was something with Habsburg or Poland. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ukraine

 

[KRLMRX]

1 hour ago, Alavan said:

OK. So that extreme right (I hate them, respecting my family'q history of the last 85 years) battalion of maximum 1000 "soldiers" is in Marioepol and Khakov. What is the distance between both cities so that one battalion can be at both places at the same time?.

And what about destructions in other towns like Kiev etc... also the same neo nazis?
are they omnipresent.

The problem is Russian actions make them acceptable, which I also hate.

what is unusual that 500 people are in Mariupol and 500 in Kharkiv?

I do not know the exact numbers, but there are many reports on the Ukrainian segment of the Internet that right now the Azov participants are asking for help, as they are surrounded in Mariupol. Judging by the same Ukrainian sources, the founder and leader of Azov, Mr. Biletsky, is now in Kharkov.

There are other battalions in other places. Read about the "exploits" of the "Aidar" battalion, for example. They even tried to try its participants in Ukraine for mass rape, but in my opinion they were unsuccessful.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aidar_Battalion

 

[KRLMRX]

1 hour ago, Alavan said:

lutetia, part of Imperium Romanum is now Paris, and isn't a Latin/Italian town any more.
A lot of cities changed name, Kinshasha, Djakarta, Mumbay, Stalingrad, even Saigon. That is part of history. Like it or not, but it is just the name. Citizens are important.

but we are talking about how the city was called by its founders and inhabitants over the centuries. And among them there is no Kyiv until 2021. offtopic, I'm done.

[HolyCowCm]

16 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

but we are talking about how the city was called by its founders and inhabitants over the centuries. And among them there is no Kyiv until 2021. offtopic, I'm done.

How about we just take everything back before the bronze age then.

[KRLMRX]

1 hour ago, Stardust said:

Sure Putin will teach never was something with Habsburg or Poland. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Ukraine

according to your link there is nothing about the German name Kyiv.

[Stardust]

3 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

according to your link there is nothing about the German name Kyiv.

I never said Germany I said Habsburg but they were speaking the old german language! Habsburg!!!

[KRLMRX]

1 hour ago, HolyCowCm said:

Hi, What is your IQ, or what do you actually have going in Russia - like family or ? I don't know but would like to know the your real stuff you have or directly in Russia now. You got a mom or dad? Sister? If not then, then are they dead or where do they live now? Understand where I am now pushing on for you?

English is not my native language, maybe that's why I don't understand why you need this information.

I was born and live in Russia, I have an average IQ, my whole family is alive and also lives in Russia.

[HolyCowCm]

13 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

American, European governments also have the main goal - to create favorable conditions for doing big business.

 

This is beyond rational thinking and business, unless ofcourse you have grandiose to re-unite the semi old Soviet republic and want to be a or the Czar. Maybe that is why Putin may have had a soft spot for Trump, as the aspiration is pretty much the same .But let’s agree, this is not the way to do it. Couldn’t Putin do it another way and just everyone call him an inspirational genius? He has now ruined the time and place to be considered like a Stalin or whomever led Russia at its greatest times, Even Gorby is so far ahead of this KGB criminal, murderer, who basically raped his own country of all the biggest money makers with his chosen Oligarchs to, take and rape all the riches. I have known he supposedly is the richest deceiving person in the world for over years now. I would love to punch the guy and then sit on him until he says Uncle, get oof of me. He aint that tough except for him being the KGB boss and now president. I ride horses, and could ride a bear too. Has he ever rode a wild cow or broken, or had a bone broken being bucked off? Has the puss ever broken a bone? He needs to be a big little man and step up to show everyone. So for now, I see him as a loud mouth wuss in the safe control from his guards protecting him. Yes, a wuss.

Putin is a powerful short wuss with a big boys complex, or let’s say, say KGB complex who is very dangerous, but all the same a wuss. OK, Biden, or Boris, don’t say anything more. But they are more humanitarian than he is.

Do you take offense I talk about your guy very low? But go ahead and talk about Biden, but at least Biden has a hell of an intelligent team to help make his decisions.

 

[KRLMRX]

1 hour ago, HolyCowCm said:

How about we just take everything back before the bronze age then.

The discussion was about spelling and pronunciation. if you have evidence of spelling and pronunciation from the Bronze Age - let's discuss.

[HolyCowCm]

5 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

English is not my native language, maybe that's why I don't understand why you need this information.

I was born and live in Russia, I have an average IQ, my whole family is alive and also lives in Russia.

English is not his native language as well. So on the English front, you and him are pretty compatible and similar, and both are really smart guys.. 

[KRLMRX]

14 minutes ago, Stardust said:

I never said Germany I said Habsburg but they were speaking the old german language! Habsburg!!!

No, you wrote exactly about the German:

3 hours ago, Stardust said:

Wrong kiev is the old german writing

but even about the role of the Habsburgs in the name of Kyiv in your link is not.

I guess it won't. Farewell, my warlike deceiver.

[Stardust]

3 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

No, you wrote exactly about the German:

3 hours ago, Stardust said:

Wrong kiev is the old german writing

but even about the role of the Habsburgs in the name of Kyiv in your link is not.

I guess it won't. Farewell, my warlike deceiver.

Habsburg (Austria Hungary) were speaking german. Thats why I said the old german language

[1l1]

10 hours ago, Stardust said:

Nobody called this wars Kosovo war it were the Balkan wars!!

Your post shows you really know not anything about the Kosovo war. 

Edited March 21, 2022 by Smithydog
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