News Forum - UKRAINE UPDATES

[Rookiescot]

4 minutes ago, Guest1 said:

They are not?

Two days ago the Ukraine military confirmed there had been clashes near Kyiv with members of the private military company Liga, formerly known as Wagner.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-private-russian-mercenaries-likely-deploying-to-fight-in-ukraine-to-support-putins-soldiers-uks-mod-says-12562029

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-what-is-the-wagner-group-of-secret-russian-mercenaries-12562034

Good. Because the Ukrainians are going to rip them apart. No quarter asked for and none given.

[KRLMRX]

3 hours ago, Stardust said:

And get arrested and 15 years jail when you call a invasion invasion or a war a war

Are you a Clown or comedian or do you really believe what you write??

well, follow the law.

in other countries, you can go to jail for saying a bad word about royalty, for example. And one unfortunate 12 years can not wait for the trial for publishing information about the crimes of those in power.

"Law is the will of the ruling class elevated to law"

[Rookiescot]

3 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

well, follow the law.

in other countries, you can go to jail for saying a bad word about royalty, for example. And one unfortunate 12 years can not wait for the trial for publishing information about the crimes of those in power.

"Law is the will of the ruling class elevated to law"

So you are unable to say that Russia has illegally invaded the Ukraine and a war now exists between these two countries because the law in Russia prevents you from saying that.

And you talk about the west and its media restrictions?

[KRLMRX]

3 hours ago, oldschooler said:

Clearly Staged. There were no kids killed in Donbass by military action before Putins Non- uniformed soldiers (in other words, Spies & Saboteurs) moved in with their heavy armaments,

including the Dutch -PROVEN Russian Army Missile & Crew that destroyed a Civilian Airliner in Ukrainian Aitspace.

why does the Ukrainian army participate in Putin's production and kill children?

Malaysia DOES NOT AGREE with this review.

[JohnC]

2 minutes ago, Rookiescot said:

Yes you do have to explain the irony of that because it is apparent you are selective about the actions of one country over another.

Lest we forget? I was a British army soldier for 8 years. I have seen armed conflict. So no I dont forget.

Tell me what exactly you have done from the comfort of your armchair.

Well it's really quite simple. 

There was a country called Germany that started this very big war which became so big it was called a world war. Within this world war millions of innocent people women and children were murdered in the most horrific way. 

Now something similar is happening involving a country called Russia although not in the same scale and we've got someone of German descendant saying we won't forget all the women and children who are being murdered. 

I can't make it much simpler than that 

Forgive me I thought you were starting to forget due to you dismissing the relevance of it. 

But then you have to throw in your usual bitchy comment that sounds so childish so that's the end of me debating with you thanks

 

[Faz]

38 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

when will the BBC provide photos and videos of those who died in this maternity hospital?  

what a habit to throw in a fake and not even try to provide at least some evidence?

'Google' is your friend.

https://time.com/6156357/russia-airstrike-ukraine-hospital/

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/02/25/ukraine-russian-cluster-munition-hits-hospital

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31129484

[oldschooler]

6 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

why does the Ukrainian army participate in Putin's production and kill children?

Malaysia DOES NOT AGREE with this review.

They don’t. Russians in Ukrainian uniforms filmed by Russian propaganda units , no doubt …..advanced civilized nations have nothing to learn from Islamic hellholes living in year 650 AD. 
 

[Rookiescot]

8 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Well it's really quite simple. 

There was a country called Germany that started this very big war which became so big it was called a world war. Within this world war millions of innocent people women and children were murdered in the most horrific way. 

Now something similar is happening involving a country called Russia although not in the same scale and we've got someone of German descendant saying we won't forget all the women and children who are being murdered. 

I can't make it much simpler than that 

Forgive me I thought you were starting to forget due to you dismissing the relevance of it. 

But then you have to throw in your usual bitchy comment that sounds so childish so that's the end of me debating with you thanks

OK so your most relevant point is about something which happened over 70 years ago.

Thats fair enough but history did not start or stop there. And history is important because without an understanding of that you are doomed to repeat the same mistakes.

Just like Czar Putin has done by invading the Ukraine. He is behaving the same as Hitler did.

Why is it so hard for you to see that?

[Guest1]

15 minutes ago, Faz said:

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31129484

That one is a bit older, 2015, from Donetsk!

[Faz]

11 minutes ago, Guest1 said:

That one is a bit older, 2015, from Donetsk!

Yep, pro Russian rebels weren't concerned then either.

[Stardust]

50 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Well it's really quite simple. 

There was a country called Germany that started this very big war which became so big it was called a world war. Within this world war millions of innocent people women and children were murdered in the most horrific way. 

Now something similar is happening involving a country called Russia although not in the same scale and we've got someone of German descendant saying we won't forget all the women and children who are being murdered. 

I can't make it much simpler than that 

Forgive me I thought you were starting to forget due to you dismissing the relevance of it. 

But then you have to throw in your usual bitchy comment that sounds so childish so that's the end of me debating with you thanks

What I said? Wow you are telling really rubbish! I not said anything about that and you are tge bitchy and childish one. I was talking about the invasion in the Ukraine and where they are bombing children and woman what you wanna tell us it is om because there was 80 years ago the wnd world war. What kibd of rubbish and what aboutism you bring up here is incredible!

[KRLMRX]

4 hours ago, Alavan said:

That battalion must be a formidable army blowing up civil buildings at the same time in Marioepol, Khankiv, Kiev, and other cities. How many soldiers ?

yes, in fact it is a neo-Nazi sect, which in 2014 was given weapons for the war with the Russians.

there are supporters in different cities of Ukraine. as far as I can see from the news, the main forces of the sect are in Mariupol and Kharkov.

[KRLMRX]

2 hours ago, Fester said:

TASS is a news agency but not just like Reuters because it is state owned and run.

the form of ownership has nothing to do with the level of truthfulness

[astro]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

Well it's really quite simple. 

There was a country called Germany that started this very big war which became so big it was called a world war. Within this world war millions of innocent people women and children were murdered in the most horrific way. 

Now something similar is happening involving a country called Russia although not in the same scale and we've got someone of German descendant saying we won't forget all the women and children who are being murdered. 

I can't make it much simpler than that 

F...

I don't see any irony in that.

If one wishes to draw history into it, I'd say a German would perhaps be in a good position to make such a remark, as the suffering caused and the efforts to keep memory alive is a prominent part of the contemporary German psyche.

[Marble-eye]

4 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

the form of ownership has nothing to do with the level of truthfulness

Come on now Karl your posts have become an embarrassment, quit now whilst you still have any credibility left.

 

• Overall, we rate the Russian News Agency (TASS), Questionable based on the consistent promotion of Russian Propaganda, conspiracies, and poor sourcing of information.

 

Funded by / Ownership

"Tass is owned by the Government of Russia and funded through advertising and the Russian Government.

In review, TASS is a news wire service similar to the Associated Press, but there is no comparison between the two. The only similarity is both use low-biased headlines and wording; however, TASS is 100% Russian propaganda all the time. It is impossible to find an article critical of Vladimir Putin and his administration. TASS does not cite sources in their news reporting and often omits reporting that is not positive about Russia."

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/russian-news-agency-tass/

 

 

[JohnC]

5 minutes ago, astro said:

I don't see any irony in that.

If one wishes to draw history into it, I'd say a German would perhaps be in a good position to make such a remark, as the suffering caused and the efforts to keep memory alive is a prominent part of the contemporary German psyche.

That's a fair point well made

 

[KRLMRX]

2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Turns out that those are the countries with the highest GDP. You know your economy is failing. Been to the shops recently?

GDP proportions are changing rapidly, as we can see.

Russia's economy has been crashing for 30 years since the collapse of the USSR.

prices have risen in the shops, I believe the same processes are in your country.

[KRLMRX]

2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Has Russia illegally invaded another country and a war now exists between them.

Yes or no?

illegal and exists. like other wars. Will you stop following me now?

[KRLMRX]

2 hours ago, Stardust said:

Read first, I wrote UN! The sanctions is another chapter. 

The UN is diplomatic tinsel, real actions show the position of states.

[HolyCowCm]

You boys sure are entertaining. Would love to jump in a tiny bit, but I see KRLMRX is already juggling enough on his pro Russia plate. Carry on.

[KRLMRX]

2 hours ago, EdwardV said:

Not that I agree with your premise, after all this is hardly the first place he has sent troops to cause death and destruction. What makes him bloodthirsty is the wanton and cavalier actions of his armies. Bombing one hospital could be an accident, even two. But when you bomb dozens it’s a pattern. Destroying bomb shelters, residential neighborhoods, schools, apartment complexes, even shooting people in breadlines. Grinding city after city with artillery is bloodthirsty. 

fortunately, we see no evidence for this.

there is destruction in the places of combat clashes of the parties, which are often located in civilian buildings, and who exactly fired the projectile - there are at least 2 versions.

[JohnC]

Just now, HolyCowCm said:

You boys sure are entertaining. Would love to jump in a tiny bit, but I see KRLMRX is already juggling enough on his pro Russia plate. Carry on.

To be fair to this KRLMRX fella his posts are respectful and informative whether people agree with them or not. 

At least he avoids the name calling and abuse he gets from certain posters by not lowering himself to their level and acting like a keyboard warrior. 

 

[KRLMRX]

2 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Oh Kiev? Thats telling. Everyone else knows it as Kyiv.

And the Wagner group is nowhere near Kyiv.

you have been deceived.

for more than 1000 years it was Kiev. Kyiv, it became the last 8 years, when the "pro-Western" fighters against Russia came to power

[HolyCowCm]

1 minute ago, JohnC said:

To be fair to this KRLMRX fella his posts are respectful and informative whether people agree with them or not. 

At least he avoids the name calling and abuse he gets from certain posters by not lowering himself to their level and acting like a keyboard warrior. 

 

Yes, KRLMRX can definitely hold his own on a conversation/debate and still is able to keep an even temperament. Well, I hope he is not a she. But if you ever saw the Movie Salt, then it doesn't matter if that has any truth or reality to it. I am 1000% opposed to the invasion of Kuwait, oops - Ukraine. But yes opposed to it, and even though I tend to not agree with KRLMRX, I do actually like to read the posted view-points of his/her ideology. No disrespect intended..

Only good thing is the stock market is there for the investing.

 

[Stardust]

6 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

you have been deceived.

for more than 1000 years it was Kiev. Kyiv, it became the last 8 years, when the "pro-Western" fighters against Russia came to power

Wrong kiev is the old german writing and liwiw was before called Lemberg. Exactly opposite the soviet union changed their old names and not any western!