News Forum - Is Russia invading Ukraine? Biden says so

[Poolie]

Ah, it appears that I wasn't a mile off.

[Alavan]

6 hours ago, anarchofarmer said:

Seems everyone has forgotten the "Cuban Missile Crisis", when the roles were reversed and Kennedy threatened nuclear war! Though I don't think Kruschefofs' son had big business dealings in Cuba!

Seems you forgot we are 60 years further and weapons, including rockets changed a lot. SAM Iskander has a reach of 400 km. And what about Zircon?

[Alavan]

6 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

and for information - in the UN Charter there is also the right of nations to self-determination

You are correct: Ukraine has the right to self-determination.

 

or isn’t it that what you meant?

[HolyCowCm]

5 hours ago, EdwardV said:

Outside the fact Putin claims otherwise, pretty sure that’s not true. Russian troops crossing an internationally recognized border that Ukraine still claims is an invasion. 

Absolutely 100%. Putin should be charged for war crimes now, but he will lie through his teeth as he is doing now.  

[KRLMRX]

1 hour ago, Alavan said:

You are correct: Ukraine has the right to self-determination.

or isn’t it that what you meant?

According to the UN Charter, any people living in any country, including Ukraine, has the right to self-determination.  Including the Russians living there.

[EdwardV]

7 minutes ago, KRLMRX said:

According to the UN Charter, any people living in any country, including Ukraine, has the right to self-determination.  Including the Russians living there.

The Ukraine already had a referendum on that, seems Putin doesn't care. 

[KRLMRX]

14 minutes ago, EdwardV said:

The Ukraine already had a referendum on that, seems Putin doesn't care. 

yes, in 1994, at a referendum in Crimea, the majority of residents spoke in favor of a deeper integration of the peninsula with Russia and strengthening of autonomous powers. This continued until 2014, when neo-Nazis came to power in Ukraine and one of the first decrees canceled all the privileges of Crimea.

Also, I'm sure you know about the independence referendums in the DPR and LPR in 2014.

You know all this, right?

[DiJoDavO]

 

Did the west invade other countries throughout history? African, Asian and Middle Eastern countries say so. 

But it's OK when we do it. 

[DiJoDavO]

15 hours ago, Poolie said:

Biden wouldn't know if Russia was invading his underpants.

Trust me, if someone knows about invading spaces, it's Biden with his hair sniffing. 

[Guest1]

13 hours ago, Alavan said:

No way, they tasted democracy.

You mean the democracy socialisms, money flow for nothing?

[Freeduhdumb]

While sleepy Joe can't figure out if his basement has been invaded or not, he can simply send Hunter... he's an expert on the region. Wasn't he an oil and gas oligarch for a while in Eastern Ukraine?  He could surely use his influence over there and get things sorted? Maybe another billion dollars? 

 

Edited February 24, 2022 by Freeduhdumb
Grammar correction additional content.

[Guest1]

13 hours ago, KRLMRX said:

in the UN Charter there is also the right of nations to self-determination.

That might be the reason, that Europe countries did grow in numbers , about 15, after 1990. But this right is, of course, always depending on pov: Jugoslavia:Good - Ukraine:bad

[Guest1]

13 hours ago, Chatogaster said:

Occupying someone's backyard for a couple of years doesn't imply transfer of ownership

If I remember that right, that was the reason for some squatter in Spain, mostly Romani families, lots of members (no insult intend, just naming facts), to stay in houses, occupy fincas, for years: The rightful owner didn't care that ground and did not kick all of them out in he first 48 hours again. 

[Tim_Melb]

So it's now confirmed Russian has invaded Ukraine and all the commenters on here defending Putin have been proven wrong.

[Freeduhdumb]

3 minutes ago, Tim_Melb said:

So it's now confirmed Russian has invaded Ukraine and all the commenters on here defending Putin have been proven wrong.

After the invasion (the coup de tat) in 2104, the CIA has been embedded in the Donbass since 2014... 

[Poolie]

5 hours ago, Tim_Melb said:

So it's now confirmed Russian has invaded Ukraine and all the commenters on here defending Putin have been proven wrong.

Why can't we defend Putin for reacting to a colour revolution? The chestnut sympathisers are a menace.