News Forum - UPDATE: Phuket police search for 2 gunmen over shooting death of Jimi “Slice” Sandhu

[Stonker]

42 minutes ago, Cabra said:

Slow down and think... I'm talking about a single criminal background check from the country that issued the passport being presented by the person in question. 

Maybe you need to "slow down and think" yourself before digging an ever deeper hole for yourself.

Countries that require CRB checks generally require them from all countries where someone has been living for the previous ten years, some longer.

A "single criminal background check from the country that issued the passport being presented by the person in question" would serve no purpose at all as the holder may not only have never been to that country at all (a dual national, for example, or someone who has bought a valid new nationality and passport) but they may not have been there for decades and their criminal activities could have been elsewhere.

Thailand, as you rightly say, doesn't have access to systems such as ETIAS so any CRB on its own is meaningless - the inevitable cries of anguish from all those who would have to do it, accusing the authorities of stupidity and a lack of thought, would be fully justified.

What you're proposing would achieve absolutely nothing in terms of keeping out criminals like 'Slice' and would just be a major 'PITA' for everyone else.

[Cabra]

32 minutes ago, Stonker said:

Maybe you need to "slow down and think" yourself before digging an ever deeper hole for yourself.

Countries that require CRB checks generally require them from all countries where someone has been living for the previous ten years, some longer.

A "single criminal background check from the country that issued the passport being presented by the person in question" would serve no purpose at all as the holder may not only have never been to that country at all (a dual national, for example, or someone who has bought a valid new nationality and passport) but they may not have been there for decades and their criminal activities could have been elsewhere.

Thailand, as you rightly say, doesn't have access to systems such as ETIAS so any CRB on its own is meaningless - the inevitable cries of anguish from all those who would have to do it, accusing the authorities of stupidity and a lack of thought, would be fully justified.

What you're proposing would achieve absolutely nothing in terms of keeping out criminals like 'Slice' and would just be a major 'PITA' for everyone else.

Again, your "we can't do anything because we can't do everything" is myopic. There are many countries in the world today that can provide valid use cases for how criminal background checks prove useful and effective. Not all solutions are elegant or perfect. Perfection is the enemy of progress. Even today, vaccine certificates and no fly list are imperfect, but we use them. If we followed your thinking nothing would ever get done because you are paralyzed by the notion that nothing works perfectly. We're done here.

Edited February 8, 2022 by Cabra

[Faz]

1 hour ago, Cabra said:

Slow down and think... I'm talking about a single criminal background check from the country that issued the passport being presented by the person in question. 

You mentioned an idea that you haven't checked if it's possible to do so.

I'm from the UK, lived in Thailand 9 years, impossible to get a CRB (DBS) from the UK.
Request a basic DBS check - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

If for any reason a CRB check was requested, it would have to be from Thailand.

[DontacoXII]

Never going to find them. They could be police as far as anyone knows. Sounds like some big money was behind it. Save your resources on this one. 

[Stonker]

3 hours ago, Faz said:

You mentioned an idea that you haven't checked if it's possible to do so.

I'm from the UK, lived in Thailand 9 years, impossible to get a CRB (DBS) from the UK.
Request a basic DBS check - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

If for any reason a CRB check was requested, it would have to be from Thailand.

What particularly annoys me about this suggestion, apart from my being accused of being "myopic" because I don't agree with it and think it's about as stupid as it comes, is that if a Thai had come up with it they'd have been hung, drawn and quartered here - quite rightly.

 

[Grumpish]

On 2/6/2022 at 9:13 PM, Cabra said:

What Thailand authorities really needs to ask themselves is how they failed so miserably by letting an international criminal into the country in the first place.

Arrived on a private jet - obviously just the type of high income long stay visitor that they keep telling everyone wants to spend time in the country.

[oldschooler]

37 minutes ago, Grumpish said:

Arrived on a private jet - obviously just the type of high income long stay visitor that they keep telling everyone wants to spend time in the country.

Or Yacht or via porous land borders up north or east.  buy that “ no look” Imm stamp at border or later…..

now what could easily be done, and probably is being done, by linked Imm . / Police data bases, at border entry point, is THAI Only Criminal Record & Interpol Wanted List checks, from photo and fingerprints. Repeat for all visa extentions here.

Not comprehensive but something & practical to catch some serious violent bad guys. Police Forensics already doing that check for 100 baht against Municipal Request Letter ( for foreigner “ yellow book”).

[Lowseasonlover]

I dont know if this is connected but it's in the same area a couple of police trucks gone down the road with with guys sitting on the back all dressed in black maybe they are on to something Im going nowhere staying home dont want to get caught in a gun fight,