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On 1/14/2022 at 1:26 PM, kmc said:

Masking is a religion now: thanks to people like you.  If you really think masks are effective, why don't you put a plastic bag around your mouth and duct-tape it shut.  Live without fear mate...or go hide in a cave.  LOL!

Why can you not understand that Masks do work to control the virus from anyone who is sick and is wearing them as well as those trying to protect themselves.  Additionally, it seems you like to make personal attacks on others whose opinion you disagree with.  Agree to disagree and move on and stop with the hate filled rhetoric.

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5 hours ago, Noble_Design said:

Finally someone showing data and reference/sources rather than the usual assumptions or my friend told me this and that or go Google it yourself etc.

Dont be so easily pleased. As someone once said "There are lies, damn lies, and statistics." 

The best lies are told around a bedrock of hard to verify facts. 

On 1/15/2022 at 1:50 PM, nobusinessofurs said:

You can bet some pharmaceutical Intenty is associated with those numbers.

Another conspiracy believer I see.....time to move along.....

5 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Another conspiracy believer I see.....time to move along.....

Not conspiracy theories.  I invested in pharmaceuticals at the onslaught, time to purchase a 2nd villa with the returns. Keep the jabs going 

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5 hours ago, Vince said:

Dont be so easily pleased. As someone once said "There are lies, damn lies, and statistics." 

The best lies are told around a bedrock of hard to verify facts. 

Data on yearly deaths/causes are easily researchable and in the public domain. This isn't some obscure statistics on yearly UFO sightings.

12 minutes ago, nobusinessofurs said:

Not conspiracy theories.  I invested in pharmaceuticals at the onslaught, time to purchase a 2nd villa with the returns. Keep the jabs going 

In that case, Rolex and Patek Philippe are probably manipulating Covid numbers as well considering how much their watches have gone up in prices these few years and how scarce they have been 🙄

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3 minutes ago, Noble_Design said:

Data on yearly deaths/causes are easily researchable and in the public domain. This isn't some obscure statistics on yearly UFO sightings.

I am not saying the data is false. I think the data points to (mostly) really dead people. I'm saying the analysis is difficult to refute or verify. And there is strong data and "weak" data. Weak data is subject to competing hypotheses. 

Yes, lots of extra people died. Why? Let's take a guess! 

 

11 hours ago, Noble_Design said:

Finally someone showing data and reference/sources rather than the usual assumptions or my friend told me this and that or go Google it yourself etc.

Here's a good stat for you. Many states in the US are seeing skyrocketing deaths in people in the prime of their life, and it's not covid.  Suicide, drug overdoses, etc.  

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Deaths among people aged 18 to 49 increased more than 40 percent in the 12 months ending October 2021 compared to the same period in 2018–2019, before the pandemic, according to an analysis by The Epoch Times of death certificate data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)."

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/states-investigating-surge-mortality-rate-among-18-49-year-olds-majority-unrelated-covid-19

 

 

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5 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Why can you not understand that Masks do work to control the virus from anyone who is sick and is wearing them as well as those trying to protect themselves.  Additionally, it seems you like to make personal attacks on others whose opinion you disagree with.  Agree to disagree and move on and stop with the hate filled rhetoric.

What did the Danish mask study show? The Banglasdesh study also showed minimal benefit.

https://swprs.org/danish-mask-study-no-benefit/

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-6817

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/bangladesh-mask-study-do-not-believe

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7 minutes ago, Ttalk said:

Here's a good stat for you. Many states in the US are seeing skyrocketing deaths in people in the prime of their life, and it's not covid.  Suicide, drug overdoses, etc.  

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Deaths among people aged 18 to 49 increased more than 40 percent in the 12 months ending October 2021 compared to the same period in 2018–2019, before the pandemic, according to an analysis by The Epoch Times of death certificate data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)."

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/states-investigating-surge-mortality-rate-among-18-49-year-olds-majority-unrelated-covid-19

 

Thanks, the article also mentions it differs from state to state.

17 minutes ago, Ttalk said:

The first website is a bit too quick to jump into conclusion by saying things like "face masks had no effect" (https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/) but when you read their source material even the researchers admit to the followings (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article):

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Most studies were underpowered because of limited sample size, and some studies also reported suboptimal adherence in the face mask group.

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In theory, transmission should be reduced the most if both infected members and other contacts wear masks, but compliance in uninfected close contacts could be a problem (12,34). Proper use of face masks is essential because improper use might increase the risk for transmission (39). Thus, education on the proper use and disposal of used face masks, including hand hygiene, is also needed.

The keyword here is not the face mask itself but the proper use of the face mask.

1 hour ago, Ttalk said:

Me thinks that “they” are holding on to the smidgen of protection that they might get still ! Many are runnin scared and will protect themselves accordingly I suppose!

But i think it’s common sense if your worried but don’t force it on others and while in Rome , do what the govt forces you to do by law when possible 

https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-double-masking#:~:text=If one person is using,people are double masking%2C potentially

 

1 hour ago, Ttalk said:

Your wasting your time.

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Disparaging comment about people removed

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